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Lance Armstrong ends fight against doping charges part deux



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Pantani said:
It should not be 'ideal' if 100% of players get tested once. It should be guaranteed that every player will get tested several times a season. Rugby is not a poor sport and can afford to make these tests, no excuses. The text can say that 'those representing their country get regularly tested in and out of competition' but the figures just do not show that. I have no particular axe to grind with Rugby but it is the same as football, tennis, all American sport and golf in that it pays lip service to this issue.

For example in the three weeks of the Tour de France (featuring 198 cyclists), 419 anti doping tests were taken, plus a further 202 pre competition tests. So that is every rider tested twice during the Tour and once before it starts. This doesn't even take in to account the rest of the year, still 54% once a year is fine, right?
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Lets not forget the specific targeting of teams that had a cloud over them.
The entire Movistar team was tested one morning, then the testers went back the same afternoon and did them all again.
That's more tests on one team in one day than all of football tennis and now 6 nations rugby, all season.
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It's obvious that cycling should in fact be applauded for tackling the problem head on and not burying their collective head in the sand. Football seems to be afraid / unwilling to accept there is even a problem to address.
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We can't get to holier than thou in cycling.
It was only ever a bubbling under issue through the last decade, until cycling had it's hand forced.

The point of this thread (for me) is to say 'this is what I know, cos I've been there, done it, bought the t-shirt, and I can see the same thing happening over there, there and there'.


- Lance Armstrong is clean because he has never tested positive.
- Most of Lance's team mates and training partners have been popped.
- Lance is bigger than the sport and the governing bodies are powerless against him.
- The doping controls are farcical.
- Lance made 10's of millions of dollars from cycling.

Most if not all of those can also be attributed to:-
Djokovic.
Nadal.
Bolt.
Even Farrah.

But football, the biggest, richest, most international of all sports is innocent, why:-

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T TEST YOU CAN'T FIND ANYTHING WRONG.

and drugs don't make you kick a ball straight :facepalm:
 






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Wide-ranging checks ahead of FIFA Club World Cup:-

http://www.fifa.com/clubworldcup/news/newsid=2244117/


The fight against doping in football continues apace. Between 1 November and 10 December - ahead of the FIFA Club World Cup Morocco 2013 – 174 players from the participating teams underwent unannounced blood and urine tests.

A biological profile of each player will be established from the haematological parameters of his blood, as well as the steroid profile of his urine. This method is set to become the standard course of action in the future in the detection of performance-enhancing substances. Furthermore, players remain subject to the routine in-competition anti-doping tests whereby two players per team will be similarly tested at random after each game.
So close to credibility and then
FIFA is one of the pioneers in the implementation of the biological profile and will further push for the use of this new strategy at the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™. :lol: or :cry: but certainly :facepalm:

Similar tests in this regard have been performed at top international teams in order to produce biological profiles of the world’s top players. The creation of these individual profiles will assist in the flagging of inconsistencies and in detecting the use of prohibited substances.

“Players and coaches have been extremely co-operative and displayed their unequivocal support for FIFA’s new anti-doping strategy,” said FIFA’s Chief Medical Officer, Professor Jiri Dvorak.
 




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Wide-ranging checks ahead of FIFA Club World Cup:-

http://www.fifa.com/clubworldcup/news/newsid=2244117/


The fight against doping in football continues apace. Between 1 November and 10 December - ahead of the FIFA Club World Cup Morocco 2013 – 174 players from the participating teams underwent unannounced blood and urine tests.

A biological profile of each player will be established from the haematological parameters of his blood, as well as the steroid profile of his urine. This method is set to become the standard course of action in the future in the detection of performance-enhancing substances. Furthermore, players remain subject to the routine in-competition anti-doping tests whereby two players per team will be similarly tested at random after each game.
So close to credibility and then
FIFA is one of the pioneers in the implementation of the biological profile and will further push for the use of this new strategy at the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™. :lol: or :cry: but certainly :facepalm:

Similar tests in this regard have been performed at top international teams in order to produce biological profiles of the world’s top players. The creation of these individual profiles will assist in the flagging of inconsistencies and in detecting the use of prohibited substances.

“Players and coaches have been extremely co-operative and displayed their unequivocal support for FIFA’s new anti-doping strategy,” said FIFA’s Chief Medical Officer, Professor Jiri Dvorak.
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Oooh! New definitions of 'pioneer' and 'new'!
 




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It has occurred to me, in a World Cup year, my self-imposed NSC ban could come crashing down should the customary 'pre-tournament scandal' be PED related.
Think [MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] v Dick Tight during autobiographygate.

So I'm going to keep this thread ticking over, just in case.

With that in mind here's a little something to chew over ready for when you hear a top sportsman say:-

'I took the wrong supplement'

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...alex-rodriguez-alleged-drug-regimen.html?_r=1
 


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Still makes me giggle.
 

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Stat Brother said:
It has occurred to me, in a World Cup year, my self-imposed NSC ban could come crashing down should the customary 'pre-tournament scandal' be PED related.
Think @Ernest v Dick Tight during autobiographygate.

So I'm going to keep this thread ticking over, just in case.

With that in mind here's a little something to chew over ready for when you hear a top sportsman say:-

'I took the wrong supplement'

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...alex-rodriguez-alleged-drug-regimen.html?_r=1
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The A Rod saga has been rumbling on for a while now.

In some ways it’s similar to Lance Armstrong’s fall from grace - a high profile US sportsman, cover ups, allegations that doctors and other medical professionals are implicated, repeated claims that the individual is innocent etc, etc.

A Rod is clearly not the only one in baseball taking performance enhancing drugs – he is a poster boy that the MLB is making an example of.
 




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Tennis:-

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sns-rt-us-tennis-open-doping-20140121,0,3378039.story


The ITF has been criticized in the past for carrying out a relatively low percentage of blood tests, which are considered the most effective way of catching drugs cheats.

Blood tests constituted only nine percent of overall drugs tests in 2012, while only 15 percent of all tests, urine and blood, were conducted out-of-competition.

Joke sport, and wholly unbelievable until the get their act together.

Testing in tennis doesn't have to be better than it was, because that level is so poor.
Tennis' testing programme should be financed to the tune of $20,000,000+ and used accordingly.
How any sports programme can have less money than just 3 tournament mens singles wins is ridiculous.

But hey no drug can make you hit a ball straight :facepalm:
Or for that matter, play to a higher intensity for longer, recover quicker, and improve performance. double :facepalm:
 


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Cheat Sheet: The Tyson Gay File

http://www.propublica.org/article/cheat-sheet-the-tyson-gay-file

People with knowledge of USADA’s ongoing investigation have told ProPublica that the sprinter tested positive for a steroid or steroid precursor believed to have come from a cream given to him by Atlanta chiropractor and anti-aging specialist Clayton Gibson III.

The saga of the nation’s top sprinter likely done in by an obscure cream delivered by an anti-aging practitioner provides a view of the slipshod medical underworld of top-level sport, in which athletes risk their reputations in the enduring hunt for any competitive edge....

The label on the cream Gay is believed to have used starkly says “Testosterone/DHEA Crème,” and lists testosterone and DHEA among its ingredients. DHEA is a hormone converted in the body to testosterone, and both DHEA and testosterone are banned for Olympic athletes. Two other listed ingredients, IGF-1 and somatropin — another name for human growth hormone — are also forbidden.

According to athletes and coaches who spoke with Gay about the cream, Gay insisted that Gibson told him that the product was “all natural” and that NFL clients had used it and passed drug tests. The label on the jar reads: “100% All Natural.”
 






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Tennis Has a Steroid Problem:-

http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/itfs-2013-testing-summary.html

3. The troubling aspect of 2013 is the significant decrease in out-of-competition urine testing. There were 144 samples collected in 2013 :ohmy:, representing a 47% decrease from 2012 (271). Urine sample are needed to test for EPO and synthetic testosterone. The only rational I can see for this decrease is that the ITF is betting the farm on the biological passport. I don't consider this a prudent course of action and neither does anti-doping expert Don Catlin, who last year stated that ITF would be better off "Doubling or tripling urine tests would be of more value than starting a passport because you need such a long lead-in. You need data over four or five years."
 


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From the BBC 'An unnamed German athlete's A drug sample at the Sochi Winter Games is abnormal and a second sample will be tested later on Friday, the German Olympic Committee (DOSB) said.

The DOSB said they were informed by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) on Thursday evening and a disciplinary commission would convene later in the day after the B sample has been tested.'

Odds on it being a cross country skier or biathlete?
 




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From the BBC 'An unnamed German athlete's A drug sample at the Sochi Winter Games is abnormal and a second sample will be tested later on Friday, the German Olympic Committee (DOSB) said.

The DOSB said they were informed by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) on Thursday evening and a disciplinary commission would convene later in the day after the B sample has been tested.'

Odds on it being a cross country skier or biathlete?
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It'll be either a bob-cyclist or a cycling figure skater.
 


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Out of that list of cheats who have had their Olympic Medals revoked the 'craziest' one has to be the snowboarder who had his slalom gold medal revoked for taking marijuana!
 


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Out of that list of cheats who have had their Olympic Medals revoked the 'craziest' one has to be the snowboarder who had his slalom gold medal revoked for taking marijuana!
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What about poor old Hans-Gunnar Liljenwall.

He caused the disqualification of the Swedish men's team at the 1968 Summer Olympics held in Mexico City for his alcohol use. Liljenwall was the first athlete to be disqualified at the Olympics for drug use, following the introduction of anti-doping regulations by the International Olympic Committee in 1967.
Liljenwall reportedly had "two beers" to calm his nerves before the pistol shooting portion of the modern pentathlon. The Swedish team eventually had to return their bronze medals.
 


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What about poor old Hans-Gunnar Liljenwall.

He caused the disqualification of the Swedish men's team at the 1968 Summer Olympics held in Mexico City for his alcohol use. Liljenwall was the first athlete to be disqualified at the Olympics for drug use, following the introduction of anti-doping regulations by the International Olympic Committee in 1967.
Liljenwall reportedly had "two beers" to calm his nerves before the pistol shooting portion of the modern pentathlon. The Swedish team eventually had to return their bronze medals.
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I missed that one!
 




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Doping Cases since Last Winter Olympic Games

Published: 2014-02-07
We have compiled the following list of Anti-Doping Rule Violations registered in the Anti-Doping Database starting from 2010 (last Olympic Games).

Alpine Skiing (2)
Countries:
1: Switzerland 1
2: Russian 1

Substances:
1: Cannabis 1
2: Clomiphene 1
3: Testosterone 1
4: Trenbolone 1

Alpine Ski Cross (1)
Country:
1: Czech Republic 1

Substance:
1: Marijuana 1

Biathlon (2)
Countries:
1: Belarus 1
2: Russia 1

Substances:
1: Non disclosed substance 1
2: Ephedrine 1

Bobsleigh (9)
Countries:
1: Canada 5
2: United Kingdom 1
3: Switzerland 1
4: Australia 1
5: United States 1

Substances/ADRV:
1: Testosterone 2
2: Clenbuterol 2
3: Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators 2
4: Refusing or failing without compelling j ... 1
5: Androstenediol
6: Hydrochlorothiazide 1
7: Oxandrolone 1
8: Boldenone 1
9: Nandrolone 1
10: Trenbolone 1

Cross Country Skiing (8)
Countries:
1: Russia 7
2: Poland 1

Substances/ADRV:
1: Non disclosed substance 4
2: Refusing or failing without compelling j ... 1
3: Erythropoietin 1
4: Possession of prohibited substances and ... 1
5: Tampering, or attempting to tamper, with ... 1

Curling (4)
Countries:
1: Canada 2
2: Czech Republic 1
3: Sweden 1 (paralympic curling)

Substances:
1: Hydrochlorothiazide 1
2: Tamoxifen 1
3: Clenbuterol 1
4: Methandienone 1

Figure Skating (1)
Country:
1: Russia 1

Substance:
1: Furosemide 1

Ice Hockey (28)
Countries:
1: Russia 10
2: Slovakia 4
3: Norway 3
4: Italy 2
5: United Kingdom 2
6: Sweden 2
7: Canada 2
8: Kazakhstan 1
9: Belarus 1
10: United States 1

Substances:
1: Non disclosed substance 10
2: Methylhexaneamine 8
3: Tetrahydrocannabinol 3
4: Cannabis 2
5: Tuaminoheptane 1
6: Pseudoephedrine 1
7: Clenbuterol 1
8: Methandienone 1
9: Furosemide 1
10: Benzoylecgonine 1

Luge (1)
Country:
1: Russia 1

Substance:
1: Non disclosed substance 1

Nordic Combined (2)
Country:
1: Russia 2

Substance:
1: Non disclosed substance 2 (Stimulants)

Short Track Speed Skating (1)
Country:
1: France

Substance:
1: Tuaminoheptane

Snowboard (3)
Countries:
1: United States 1
2: Russia 1
3: Switzerland 1

Substances/ADRV:
1: Failure to provide whereabouts informati ... 1
2: Carphedon 1
3: Refusing or failing without compelling j ... 1

Speed Skating (6)
Countries:
1: Canada 2
2: Italy 1
3: Russia 1
4: Kazakhstan 1
5: United States 1

Substances/ADRV:
1: Cannabis 2
2: Failure to provide whereabouts informati ... 1
3: Tuaminoheptane 1
4: Non disclosed substance 1
5: Tetrahydrocannabinol 1

Sources: National Anti-Doping Organizations, National Sports Federations, International Sports Federations.

Note: RUSADA do not publicly disclose the name of the prohibited substance. These cases are stated as Non disclosed substance in the list.
Disclaimer: The list is based on information in the Anti-Doping Database. It may differ from official statistics as we get our information from what National Anti-Doping Organizations and International Federations publicly discloses.
 


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I thought the curlers would be there, they all seem to be very calm, whilst the commentary team attempts to bring excitement to it. Is there a sport that is unaffected by drugs, probably not. Is anyone really surprised or raging about it anymore, I don't think so, only when 'one of our boys is caught'.
 


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