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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
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beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,332
The full impact of Brexit is now emerging with the distress this result will cause.

Life will never be the same again

Brexit could play a part in the next FM17 game release. In a blog post on LinkedIn, Miles Jacobson, the studio director at Sports Interactive, said the UK's decision to leave the EU could affect playing as many more foreign players will now require a work permit. That's just about the only hint at new gameplay features we've heard so far.

But i assume any leavers who play FM immediately ensure they only have a squad of English players

:laugh:

because we are leave EU in the next month? or because Sports Interactive are using Brexit to drum up a bit of press?
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,332
Not by British consumers.

speak for yourself. designed and built in UK makes them British to me. average consumer used to consider their Ford Escorts and Vauxhall Astras to be British cars, often long after they were even made here.
 


studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
29,667
On the Border
because we are leave EU in the next month? or because Sports Interactive are using Brexit to drum up a bit of press?

But you don't play FM just for the season, and no doubt the game is being tweaked so that for the 1st season post Brexit and for the following seasons, the more stringent work permits will be part of the game.
 






5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
because we are leave EU in the next month? or because Sports Interactive are using Brexit to drum up a bit of press?

Just another example of the pointless tedium and self-defeating foot-shooting that will accompany Brexit.
 


Biscuit Barrel

Well-known member
Jan 28, 2014
2,453
Southwick
We're not liked in Europe at all a lot are disappointed in us, frankly I wish I could do a good Irish accent it ain't a good time to be a Brit (though soon we might not even be that).

I respect your point of view. However, please do not speak for me. I have never been prouder to be British. I am also proud to be European. I just did not want to remain part of the EU.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,749
Eastbourne
And the Tories last cabinet could all meet in Notting Hill or at weekends Chipping Norton, WHAT is your POINT ?

Do you want to go on THE list ?
You are clearly getting your sense of humour back after a few barren days. The CAPITALS have returned with a vengeance.
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Rubbish. I regularly contribute to food threads, beer threads, running thread, travel and music as well as politics. I have never ever have seen you stray from this thread once. You have **** all to offer. You are totally and utterly defined by this topic. No wonder you're so bitter

Oooh what a bitter little kraut loser you are!Do you ever spend any time on football threads,other than ripping the 1901 to bits?I expect you must do sometime,given you seem to be stuck permanently to the internet :lolol:What's up,your Deutsche Bank shares gone tits up?
 


Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
12,954
Central Borneo / the Lizard
Unnecessary? There's that word again. Used inappropriately one more time. Unnecessary for whom? The British people voted, there would obviously be short and long term repercussions. Was it unnecessary to carry out their wishes? I am genuinely sad that your charity is suffering as a result but the market will be the market. We didn't get to vote on the basis that if we remain or leave we could have stability.
Its a perfectly appropriate word. There was nothing necessary about holding this referendum, the result is not going to deliver the things most people in favour wanted, it is going to hurt many people - is already hurting me - , and quite frankly I doubt it will change anyone's life for the better, well, apart from a load of lawyers and Teresa May, I suppose.

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Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
A British subsidiary of TATA. Designed and built in Britain. Also described (this week) as a British company by their Chief Exec (ok he's German).

Sorry to just dip into a private argument but Jaguar Land Rover were reported last week to be looking at their UK investment plans because of Brexit. And I don't think you'd expect the chief executive to announce to the British press that in his view the company was Indian - but it is Indian in the same sense that Vauxhall is American.

There is a difference though in that the design of JLR products is primarily British (with heavy European support). And most of the products are made in the UK, for the time being at least.
 




Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
I would suggest to 'Your-all-knowingness' that the increase in UKIP MEP's might well have given him a boot in the backside:

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No need for the name-calling but I hope it made you feel better. I actually volunteered the point that Cameron announced the referendum - apparently off the cuff - before the 2015 election because he was worried about the fate of some of his MPs in the light of the UKIP growth. But we need to keep this in perspective. UKIP's result in the 2015 election was impressive - one in eight voters voted for them but that doesn't actually represent the "huge pressure" others claim - any more than the success of the LibDems in the election before (6.8m votes and nearly a quarter of the popular vote) represented an even more massive call for pro-Europeanism.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,749
Eastbourne
Its a perfectly appropriate word. There was nothing necessary about holding this referendum, the result is not going to deliver the things most people in favour wanted, it is going to hurt many people - is already hurting me - , and quite frankly I doubt it will change anyone's life for the better, well, apart from a load of lawyers and Teresa May, I suppose.

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You may feel that and that's okay of course. I am genuinely sorry that your worthy charity had been affected. However something had to give and the politicians had ignored giving the people their say for too long. One may well say the same about the referendum that took us into the common market. It was unnecessary.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,749
Eastbourne
No need for the name-calling but I hope it made you feel better. I actually volunteered the point that Cameron announced the referendum - apparently off the cuff - before the 2015 election because he was worried about the fate of some of his MPs in the light of the UKIP growth. But we need to keep this in perspective. UKIP's result in the 2015 election was impressive - one in eight voters voted for them but that doesn't actually represent the "huge pressure" others claim - any more than the success of the LibDems in the election before (6.8m votes and nearly a quarter of the popular vote) represented an even more massive call for pro-Europeanism.
You are ignoring the fact that many more than one in eight voters voted to leave. Why would you suppose that only UKIP voters in the 2015 election were in favour of leaving. There would have been many Tory and Labour voters who felt the same way but you are ignoring that. Heck, there were probably even a couple of Liberals.
 




Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
dont worry
eventually you will snap out of it.

Not everyone will... this year's British Nobel prizewinner said this about Brexit this week: "It is a very stupid, narrow-minded decision and will have disastrous long-term effects on science in the UK... I feel strongly about Brexit and do not wish to be associated with a country which is so insular and narrow-minded." He added that even if he was working in the UK at the moment the decision would have had him job-hunting immediately. Referring to his passport he said that if the UK does not change its mind he will not renew it "and may even renounce my British citizenship".

One guesses that the "change of mind" he mentions would be covered by a decision to remain in the single market with the associated free movement.

I await a comment from one of NSC's Brexiteers than the Nobel prizewinner is clearly a traitorous idiot to whom we should say good riddance. Hey-ho.
 


Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
You keep repeating this 'we are not liked in Europe at all' guff. It's a little rich that you claim to speak on behalf of 500 million people. I've met plenty of Europeans since the vote and not found a shred of dislike for the UK. Many of them thought we'd done the right thing. Most of them were Germans who really dislike the way Merkel has led their country and wish they were out of the EU themselves.

I don't mean to be trite but there is a possibility that they were just being polite...
 


Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
You are ignoring the fact that many more than one in eight voters voted to leave. Why would you suppose that only UKIP voters in the 2015 election were in favour of leaving. There would have been many Tory and Labour voters who felt the same way but you are ignoring that. Heck, there were probably even a couple of Liberals.

And equally, I could ask why would you suppose that only LibDem voters were in favour of staying. To paraphrase you... There would have been many Tory and Labour voters who felt the same way but you are ignoring that. Heck, there were probably even a couple of... Kippers. (In fairness, as we all know from standing on an away ground terrace, it is very easy to over-estimate the support when you're in the middle of the noise.)
 






Diego Napier

Well-known member
Mar 27, 2010
4,416
It all started with the banking crisis, the EU sticking their noses in to our business and politicians making stupid decisions, and then pushing people down for having an opinion. It has left people like myself with a feeling that we no longer have a say in anything. A huge part of this problem is with the EU here, because it is with their rules that has caused the most tensions, and their rules that have guided our own politicians. Remove the legal shackles so we can forge a new path in this country, because the EU are holding us back.

and yet the harsh reality is that you and people like yourself have never had a say in anything. And you never will.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,749
Eastbourne
And equally, I could ask why would you suppose that only LibDem voters were in favour of staying. To paraphrase you... There would have been many Tory and Labour voters who felt the same way but you are ignoring that. Heck, there were probably even a couple of... Kippers. (In fairness, as we all know from standing on an away ground terrace, it is very easy to over-estimate the support when you're in the middle of the noise.)
Whoosh!

Read my post again. Tell me where I said only liberals were in favour of staying?
 


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