France Vs England 8pm

PILTDOWN MAN · Jun 13, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
We look ok going forward

Shouldn't have to score 3 to not lose.

The set up and system is all wrong - we should be playing the same system style as Liverpool and Spurs - considering the majority of players come from those two and it's not far from the Chelsea and City ways.

We have the players, we have good players.

Hardly beaten a player all night any of them.

sjamesb3466 · Jun 13, 2017

PILTDOWN MAN said:
Lack of desire from the players.

I agree, but that is not a man that would motivate me. Bland in the extreme

Beezer · Jun 13, 2017

If my son played for a team where the manager was that tactically astute, I would pull him out.

Stumpy Tim · Jun 13, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
We look ok going forward

Shouldn't have to score 3 to not lose.

The set up and system is all wrong - we should be playing the same system style as Liverpool and Spurs - considering the majority of players come from those two and it's not far from the Chelsea and City ways.

We have the players, we have good players.

We seem to play better with a back three though. Unfortunately our defenders are utterly clueless in possession. John Stones is a laughable footballer

PILTDOWN MAN · Jun 13, 2017

We could have been stuffed 5 or 6 tonight

Surf's Up · Jun 13, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
We look ok going forward

Shouldn't have to score 3 to not lose.

The set up and system is all wrong - we should be playing the same system style as Liverpool and Spurs - considering the majority of players come from those two and it's not far from the Chelsea and City ways.

We have the players, we have good players.

They're not as good as they think they are.

sjamesb3466 · Jun 13, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
We look ok going forward

Shouldn't have to score 3 to not lose.

The set up and system is all wrong - we should be playing the same system style as Liverpool and Spurs - considering the majority of players come from those two and it's not far from the Chelsea and City ways.

We have the players, we have good players.

We do have good players, not sure we have many/any world class players however and those who do perform in the Premier League seem incapable or unwilling in an England shirt

PILTDOWN MAN · Jun 13, 2017

Reckon Greer is quicker than Cahill

Surrey Phil · Jun 13, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
Defence has let us down again (not that it matters)

Last few games against non minnows:

Iceland - Hart mistake
Wales - Hart mistake
Scotland - Hart mistakes
Germany - poor closing down and defending
France - basic defending poor

Horrendous defensively but then it's been a problem for years and I can't see the solution but it's not Jones and Cahill in a flat back four!!!!

Kinky Gerbil · Jun 13, 2017

Stumpy Tim said:
We seem to play better with a back three though. Unfortunately our defenders are utterly clueless in possession. John Stones is a laughable footballer

I just said the same to Charlie about Stones - Jones is somehow worse.

I would have jagielka ahead of both of them.

Keane will hopefully get a chance when back fit.

Coldeanseagull · Jun 13, 2017

I am a staunch believer in the English Empire. I will defend my team no matter what........for this English 'team' I will make an exception . There are some there who should never be allowed near an England shirt ever again. I wouldn't say the frogs were a particularly good side, quite average with the usual histrionics. We were bloody awful and it's put me in a bad mood

Kinky Gerbil · Jun 13, 2017

sjamesb3466 said:
We do have good players, not sure we have many/any world class players however and those who do perform in the Premier League seem incapable or unwilling in an England shirt

I know it's a level below, but Alli has done some outrageous things this season, he never seems to do it for England - is it down to the pressure ?

sir albion · Jun 13, 2017

Christ we're shite...
To lightweight,no leadership and very disjointed amongst many other things.Poor tactics from a shite clueless manager to be frank.
If France had 9 men it would have been an even game

mikeyjh · Jun 13, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
We have the players, we have good players.

We really don't. I'd love to think we do but we're miles away from being good. We could have lost by 5,6,7 tonight even with a man advantage. We weren't able to press, even against 10 men yet the French could do it at will, that's all about technique and confidence in that technique.....

Bladders · Jun 13, 2017

Did we win?

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hoveboyslim · Jun 13, 2017

sjamesb3466 said:
Southgate must be the least qualified manager of England ever. One club job which ended in relegation and sacking, gaining qualification for u21 championship and coming bottom of group. Wow

Safe pair of hands after Allardyce. Not good enough at this level.

Kinky Gerbil · Jun 13, 2017

mikeyjh said:
We really don't. I'd love to think we do but we're miles away from being good. We could have lost by 5,6,7 tonight even with a man advantage. We weren't able to press, even against 10 men yet the French could do it at will, that's all about technique and confidence in that technique.....

Dier/Kane/Lallana/Walker/Tripper/Henderson/Alli/Kane/Sterling all manage to work the high press with ease at club level.

PILTDOWN MAN · Jun 13, 2017

Why the f**k do I do it. 49 years old I should know better, but no, every time I watch, I hope, I despair, I f**king despair.

Kane just said if we want to be brave, ffs lad.

LVGull · Jun 13, 2017

PILTDOWN MAN said:
Sterling you make my p1ss boil

He is shocking, can't stand him or rate him.

sir albion · Jun 13, 2017

Coldeanseagull said:
I am a staunch believer in the English Empire. I will defend my team no matter what........for this English 'team' I will make an exception . There are some there who should never be allowed near an England shirt ever again. I wouldn't say the frogs were a particularly good side, quite average with the usual histrionics. We were bloody awful and it's put me in a bad mood

Disagree as thought the French looked a far better,bigger and stronger and with 10 men for 45 mins left they looked far better still and should have scored more.
We were utter tripe

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