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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
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Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
11,858
Cumbria
Outside chance that Boris will get the EU not to agree an extension as his deal has been approved by parliament. I suspect if the deadline is still the 31st then the bill will be passed to avoid no deal.

no chance at all I would say. The EU will see that there is now a possible majority for a deal, so long as time is given to debate it properly. Of course they'll offer an extension to let that happen. And any amendments making it a softer Brexit will be welcomed by the EU. If the deal is amended so much that Johnson scraps it, then the only way out is a GE or second referendum - and the EU would be happy with that too.

Why on earth would they refuse an extension now?
 






Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Johnson really is finding out in a very public and embarrassing fashion that one cannot ride roughshod over procedure and sovereignty. Silly boy.

The only thing that 's embarrassing are the die hards dragging this sorry saga out for their own agendas, Blackford still banging on about Scotland źzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Regards
DF
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
23,592


Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Seems I misheard, Johnson said this deal rather than no deal, as it has been ratified.
But the deal is crap with no economic details being produced, maybe that will come out now.
This can't go through if nobody knows how it will affect the economy.
 




Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
23,592
The only thing that 's embarrassing are the die hards dragging this sorry saga out for their own agendas, Blackford still banging on about Scotland źzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Regards
DF

I take it our bet is still off.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,539
West is BEST
The only thing that 's embarrassing is the die hards dragging this sorry saga out for their own agendas, Blackford still banging on about Scotland źzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Regards
DF

Well to answer seriously, this legislation does need consideration.
If the EU grant a flexible extension they can’t be blamed for a no deal outcome.
I would think most sensible leavers would welcome the chance to get decent legislation sorted out.
Of course Brexiteers are fixated on No Deal but that’s unlikely now.
One thing is almost certain, 31st October is dead in the water. Which is good news for either “side”.
 


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Well to answer seriously, this legislation does need consideration.
If the EU grant a flexible extension they can’t be blamed for a no deal outcome.
I would think most sensible leavers would welcome the chance to get decent legislation sorted out.
Of course Brexiteers are fixated on No Deal but that’s unlikely now.
One thing is almost certain, 31st October is dead in the water. Which is good news for either “side”.

No chance, more amendments thrown into the mix , more disagreements just more frustration for everyone which some of the die hard remainers are quite happy with goes in line with their divisive actions LEAVE MEANS LEAVE ,get ready for Brexit
Regards
DF
 




Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
23,592
No chance, they will carry on offering extensions.

They won’t want the blame

I should imagine they will agree to an extension but alllow it to be stopped at the point of the bill eventually passing.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,539
West is BEST
No chance, more amendments thrown into the mix , more disagreements just more frustration for everyone which some of the die hard remainers are quite happy with goes in line with their divisive actions LEAVE MEANS LEAVE ,get ready for Brexit
Regards
DF

You say “get ready for Brexit” but that is what they are trying to do.
Not many people seem to have faith in the deal and it’s going to take some thrashing out. If the deal is still no good then there is no point in voting it through on a 3rd reading other than to stop a No Deal crash out.
See, it’s not as simple as you would have been lead to believe.


Yes, yes “it’s simple, leave means leave” and all your other tired phrases. Thank goodness there are people with influence who are looking out for democracy and due procedure.
 


neilbard

Hedging up
Oct 8, 2013
6,245
Tyringham
The withdrawal deal is in... tenor.gif
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,610
Gods country fortnightly
No chance, more amendments thrown into the mix , more disagreements just more frustration for everyone which some of the die hard remainers are quite happy with goes in line with their divisive actions LEAVE MEANS LEAVE ,get ready for Brexit
Regards
DF

We need a customs union as a minimum. Corbyn needs to play hard ball with the Buffoon....
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,610
Gods country fortnightly
Barnier to head up trade talks, if and when they happen. Got us weighed up now, more lessons will be learnt no doubt
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,338
Something the BBC aren't telling us ?

20:31

Rees-Mogg: 'Very hard' to see deal passed by 31 October

Conservative Peter Bone asks if it is "impossible to get a deal through prior to 31 October".

"Impossible is very strong word," says Leader of the House Jacob Rees-Mogg.

"But it is very hard to see how it is possible," she adds.
 






neilbard

Hedging up
Oct 8, 2013
6,245
Tyringham
Something the BBC aren't telling us ?

20:31

Rees-Mogg: 'Very hard' to see deal passed by 31 October

Conservative Peter Bone asks if it is "impossible to get a deal through prior to 31 October".

"Impossible is very strong word," says Leader of the House Jacob Rees-Mogg.

"But it is very hard to see how it is possible," she adds.

The withdrawal deal is inert #bercow
 




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