[Politics] Brexit

Wardy's twin · Oct 22, 2019

JC Footy Genius said:
Pretty obvious, not many proud Englishman were going to go on that march ....

Time for you to finally come to terms with the fact we are a decent, fair-minded, democratic country that enacts democratic results nicko. Hopefully you can get on with your life and do something worthwhile with all your spare time.

Democracy does not mean winner takes all.

You still haven't been able to state 1 tangible reason why we should

Stat Brother · Oct 22, 2019

Last Friday's News Quiz does an excellent job, not only on Brexit, but racism in football.
Have a listen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0009d20

Hornblower · Oct 22, 2019

If the leavers are so convinced that they are enacting the 'will of the people' why are they so scared of a confirmatory vote? Fair question?

nicko31 · Oct 22, 2019

JC Footy Genius said:
It doesn't matter what you believe. Many people would feel betrayed and there would be damaging consequences, fortunately I believe the moderate forces of democracy, fairness and freedom will prevail and we will leave.

You have every right to feel betrayed, infact I consider many leavers as victims. You were lead astray by the dark money that pedaled all the lies, nothing has been delivered. Understandably its hard to concede you were done.

The solution....

BUY MORE SNAKEOIL AND HOPE

Pretty pink fairy · Oct 22, 2019

JC Footy Genius said:
It doesn't matter what you believe. Many people would feel betrayed and there would be damaging consequences, fortunately I believe the moderate forces of democracy, fairness and freedom will prevail and we will leave.

Only Democratic reasonable would agree :wink:

Regards
DF

JC Footy Genius · Oct 22, 2019

nicko31 said:
Funny how there were flags from all of the Union bar England. You've made the English flag toxic due to your isolationist attitude. Parallel's of what the BNP did to Union Jack....

Many Welsh nationalists and Scottish nationalists are paradoxically very pro-EU and much like your good self have far more of an allegiance to the EU flag than the Union flag ...

Thunder Bolt · Oct 22, 2019

JC Footy Genius said:
It doesn't matter what you believe. Many people would feel betrayed and there would be damaging consequences, fortunately I believe the moderate forces of democracy, fairness and freedom will prevail and we will leave.

People would feel betrayed because they've believed the lies, and still do.
There will be damaging consequences now either way.

Is it PotG? · Oct 22, 2019

Hornblower said:
If the leavers are so convinced that they are enacting the 'will of the people' why are they so scared of a confirmatory vote? Fair question?

Not scared. It's just irrelevant. Why do we need to, when it's already been done? My referendum voting slip did not say 'Best of 3'. Happy for a 'This Deal or No Deal' exit referendum.

Pavilionaire · Oct 22, 2019

Is it PotG? said:
I do hope so. I am deeply concerned about the consequences 'on the streets' should the powers that be turn around one day and say "you know what, it's not worth it and we might as well stay in the EuroGang".

Many want that, but I seriously would worry about that, and the rise of 'extreme' parties that will otherwise disappear.

Just imagine the aftermath of a Remain vote in a Second Referendum: the pound immediately strengthens, people can afford to buy a foreign holiday, food prices in the shops start to go down, business has certainty restored, immigrants are allowed to stay here, Brits abroad can access EU healthcare and the news returns to talking about ordinary stuff once again. What a nightmare scenario indeed!

Blue Valkyrie · Oct 22, 2019

Wardy's twin said:
Democracy does not mean winner takes all.

You still haven't been able to state 1 tangible reason why we should

One of my favorite soundbites is that 52% of the 'should' does not mean 100% of the 'how'.

Pretty pink fairy · Oct 22, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
People would feel betrayed because they've believed the lies, and still do.
There will be damaging consequences now either way.

Says a liar ?
Regards
DF

Springal · Oct 22, 2019

Is it PotG? said:
Not scared. It's just irrelevant. Why do we need to, when it's already been done? My referendum voting slip did not say 'Best of 3'. Happy for a 'This Deal or No Deal' exit referendum.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36306681

Nige seemed happy for a second if the result was marginal

Is it PotG? · Oct 22, 2019

Pavilionaire said:
Just imagine the aftermath of a Remain vote in a Second Referendum: the pound immediately strengthens, people can afford to buy a foreign holiday, food prices in the shops start to go down, business has certainty restored, immigrants are allowed to stay here, Brits abroad can access EU healthcare and the news returns to talking about ordinary stuff once again. What a nightmare scenario indeed!

Deep meadows yet, for to forget
The lies, and truths, and pain? . . . oh! yet
Stands the Church clock at ten to three?
And is there honey still for tea?

- Rupert Brooke

Hornblower · Oct 22, 2019

You don't think that people have a right to change their mind after three and a half years?

Stat Brother · Oct 22, 2019

70% Remain constituency

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Is it PotG? · Oct 22, 2019

Springal said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36306681

Nige seemed happy for a second if the result was marginal

Farage does not, and will not, speak for me.

Blue Valkyrie · Oct 22, 2019

Pretty pink fairy said:
Says a liar ?
Regards
DF

I didn't realise the post quoted Johnson ?

nicko31 · Oct 22, 2019

Is it PotG? said:
Not scared. It's just irrelevant. Why do we need to, when it's already been done? My referendum voting slip did not say 'Best of 3'. Happy for a 'This Deal or No Deal' exit referendum.

When the vote happened in 2016, you knew what remain was, but leave was lots of different things depending on who you listened to,

Now we know what leave is and basically, not much like it was promised. So you are now terrified what people think.

Far easier to bury it in a General Election, eh?

Pretty pink fairy · Oct 22, 2019

Pavilionaire said:
Just imagine the aftermath of a Remain vote in a Second Referendum: the pound immediately strengthens, people can afford to buy a foreign holiday, food prices in the shops start to go down, business has certainty restored, immigrants are allowed to stay here, Brits abroad can access EU healthcare and the news returns to talking about ordinary stuff once again. What a nightmare scenario indeed!

Sweet Dreams
Regards
DF

JC Footy Genius · Oct 22, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
People would feel betrayed because they've believed the lies, and still do.
There will be damaging consequences now either way.

Feel betrayed if their democratic choice was not enacted despite the numerous promises, manifesto commitments and votes confirming it would be.

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