Is anyone seriously still bothering to argue with the right wing tossers on this thread
You could always argue with that tosser Nibble
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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You could always argue with that tosser Nibble
Reminds be of the other great IT plans of Government in resent years none have worked first time and in some cases never worked
Quite true but it might necessitate a rerun Referendum
The only thickies around here are people, on either side of the debate, that resort to calling people thick because they have an opinion.
As someone heavily involved in the NHS email project that failed many years ago I'd like to point out it didn't fail for technical reasons, it failed because of political bickering between NHS trusts.
- Jul 10, 2003
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No chance of political bickering on this one then
(Any large scale project that I've been on, politics has always been a major factor. In fact, we've walked away from significant deals where we felt the political situation would be too toxic).
That's why this whole timescale is pure fantasy. That and the fact the technology doesn't exist yet
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highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
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While that certainly was the case, the two main reasons that Connecting for Health failed were a) it was driven by politicians and the people it was meant to benefit had little say in it - top down projects always struggle and b) the contractural terms were really harsh and service providers struggled the terms.
Throw in the many disparate systems across the trusts and the bickering that you spoke about and it was a recipe for disaster.
Of course, that may not happen with a customs project designed to help solve the Ireland problem. There are no political disagreements between the various parties in Northern Ireland and the the Irish Republic. No siree Bob, no disagreements at all.
pastafarian
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Remainers all over twatter pinning their hopes of stopping brexit on a ECJ hearing today.
“If we win this, that’s the end of Brexit because Mrs May will arrive with her negotiators and there will be no one for her to negotiate with.”
https://amp.theguardian.com/politic...r-brexit-challenge-by-97-year-old-ww2-veteran
“If we win this, that’s the end of Brexit because Mrs May will arrive with her negotiators and there will be no one for her to negotiate with.”
https://amp.theguardian.com/politic...r-brexit-challenge-by-97-year-old-ww2-veteran
Baldseagull
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It is true that bad news sells, but it is also true that Brexit just is shit, and the attempts to make it less shit, are unfortunately, shit.
It is merely a straw, I'd agree. But it is a real straw, not an imaginary one.
The rule breaking cannot void the acts of parliament, but it could offer a government with cold feet, a politically acceptable, face-saving reason, to deviate from a course they currently feel compelled to follow.
Baldseagull
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I saw a picture of the Tory front bench wearing NHS 70 badges, the caption said it was to remind them of the 70th anniversary of when the Tories voted against it.
Baldseagull
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beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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Fixed that for you.
half or fully baked, what gives anyone the right to say 17million of the population are thickies on the ground they have a different view? its this sort of attitude that remain lost in the first place.
Baldseagull
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Do you think Brits in the EU should have had a say though, even if they have not taken part in General Elections for more than 15 years? Even 97 year old ones who will probably be dead by the time Brexit happens?
pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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We should not have got ourselves in a position where people were voting to leave the EU on the basis of feeling, rightly or wrongly, disregarded. Leaving the EU isn’t going to solve that issue as the two issues are unrelated; people will still have a certain attitude and others feel disregarded in or out of the EU.
Yes, the issue of people feeling disregard by others attitudes is important and needs to be addressed, but not by voting to leave the EU, it was throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
It actually has nothing to do with whether the referendum was advisory or binding as the Venice Commission Code is a guide only, it's not legally binding. Acts of parliament are not permanent - they can be repealed.
Indeed but Thunder Bolt seems to be pinning her hopes on the referendum being declared void and the whole of Brexit being cancelled on the findings of this investigation. Unless a new bill is put before parliament, which the current government isn't going to do, then Brexit is here to stay - whatever form that may be in.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Very pretty poster,but where is the proof of that allegation?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
You really are a mentalist aren't you?Saw this lovely picture that sums you up perfectly.
