[Albion] Is relegation still a possibility?

Goldstone1976 · Sep 16, 2015

Machiavelli said:
So I still expect 84 to be sufficient.

It doesn't feel like enough to me... fancy a small wager (proceeds to REMF) that 84 points won't be enough for auto promotion (honourable draw with both paying into REMF if 2nd and 3rd [or more] both have 84 points and position therefore determined by GD)?

Machiavelli · Sep 16, 2015

Goldstone1976 said:
It doesn't feel like enough to me... fancy a small wager (proceeds to REMF) that 84 points won't be enough for auto promotion (honourable draw with both paying into REMF if 2nd and 3rd [or more] both have 84 points and position therefore determined by GD)?

You're on. I'll increase the amount if you share something from your cellar at some event. (I can reciprocate, but it won't be quite so enticing.)

Goldstone1976 · Sep 16, 2015

Machiavelli said:
You're on. I'll increase the amount if you share something from your cellar at some event. (I can reciprocate, but it won't be quite so enticing.)

OK - people's definitions of "small" obviously vary - how would £25 for the cash component sit with you? Let me know the value of the non-cash component and if I lose, I'll donate a bottle to you of that value (value determined by wine searcher) and when you lose you'll do the same for me... is that the sort of thing you had in mind? If not, amend as you see fit...

Machiavelli · Sep 16, 2015

Goldstone1976 said:
OK - people's definitions of "small" obviously vary - how would £25 for the cash component sit with you? Let me know the value of the non-cash component and if I lose, I'll donate a bottle to you of that value (value determined by wine searcher) and when you lose you'll do the same for me... is that the sort of thing you had in mind? If not, amend as you see fit...

Let's do £50. The wine would be something additional, and would have to be shared. It probably won't happen. But it might be nice.

Wrong-Direction · Sep 16, 2015

We have a squad of players that won't let it happen.

Goldstone1976 · Sep 16, 2015

Machiavelli said:
Let's do £50. The wine would be something additional, and would have to be shared. It probably won't happen. But it might be nice.

Done.

I take it you have the REMF bank details already? :wink:

Napier's Knee · Sep 16, 2015

I know it's early in the season but apart from anything else there is no way Blackburn or Rotherham will finish above us, so at worst there is just one relegation spot to worry about

SweatyMexican · Sep 16, 2015

Well if 442 Magazine predicts we're going to finish 2nd bottom, then I'd say we're in for a real relegation scrap.

Blue Valkyrie · Sep 16, 2015

SweatyMexican said:
Well if 442 Magazine predicts we're going to finish 2nd bottom, then I'd say we're in for a real relegation scrap.

The goon that predicted that did no research but just looked at last year's table :lolol:

severnside gull · Sep 16, 2015

Rotherham had one very good player going forward, the Norwich loanee, but the rest looked League one standard for the large part and that is where they are headed.
Blackburn have so many problems. Bristol City are struggling to carry forward last season's momentum. Charlton look in danger of doing what we did last season.

Plenty of sides certain to be below us just as there are plenty of threats to go above us as the season develops

Triggaaar · Sep 16, 2015

Goldstone1976 said:
It doesn't feel like enough to me... fancy a small wager (proceeds to REMF) that 84 points won't be enough for auto promotion (honourable draw with both paying into REMF if 2nd and 3rd [or more] both have 84 points and position therefore determined by GD)?

Machiavelli said:
You're on.

Nice.

Can we confirm the rules?

Goldstone said: "84 points won't be enough for auto promotion", but that can be interpreted in different ways. For example:

First placed team gets 90 points
Second placed team gets 86 points
Third placed team gets 82 points

You could argue that either of you has won. Had the third placed team got 84 points, they wouldn't have gained automatic promotion, but had either of the top two got 84 points, they would have. So, from the example I've posted, are we saying that 83 points was enough for auto, or 86?

Goldstone1976 · Sep 16, 2015

Triggaaar said:
Nice.

Can we confirm the rules?

Goldstone said: "84 points won't be enough for auto promotion", but that can be interpreted in different ways. For example:

First placed team gets 90 points
Second placed team gets 86 points
Third placed team gets 82 points

You could argue that either of you has won. Had the third placed team got 84 points, they wouldn't have gained automatic promotion, but had either of the top two got 84 points, they would have. So, from the example I've posted, are we saying that 83 points was enough for auto, or 86?

I'm not sure what I'm missing here, but in the example you've given, if the third placed team got 84 points, they'd still be two points behind the team who finished second and I'd have won, surely? I feel sure I'm missing something (or being whooshed!), but I can't see what...

Triggaaar · Sep 16, 2015

Goldstone1976 said:
I'm not sure what I'm missing here, but in the example you've given, if the third placed team got 84 points, they'd still be two points behind the team who finished second and I'd have won, surely?

But the team that finished 2nd would have been promoted if they'd only got 83 points. As long as you both agree it's all good, I'm just saying there is more than one way to interpret it.

Machiavelli · Sep 16, 2015

Goldstone1976 said:
Done.

I take it you have the REMF bank details already?

I do. And I will be transferring some more money in there soon, as I've been meaning to do so for months. Apologies [MENTION=205]Tom Hark, Preston Park[/MENTION]

Machiavelli · Sep 16, 2015

Goldstone1976 said:
I'm not sure what I'm missing here, but in the example you've given, if the third placed team got 84 points, they'd still be two points behind the team who finished second and I'd have won, surely? I feel sure I'm missing something (or being whooshed!), but I can't see what...

On this at least [MENTION=4019]Triggaaar[/MENTION] is being cleverer than the both of us. He's right, I think, but I can't quite explain how/why. But can we agree that the aim of it is that it's a curiosity and at least one of us gives some money to REMF.

Simster · Sep 16, 2015

He is.

But the easiest way is surely to say the winning points total is one more than the third placed team manages?

Goldstone1976 · Sep 16, 2015

Triggaaar said:
But the team that finished 2nd would have been promoted if they'd only got 83 points. As long as you both agree it's all good, I'm just saying there is more than one way to interpret it.

Ah! Yes, I see. So: yes, in the scenario you give, the team in second who currently have 86 points, would still have been second on only 83 points. In that eventually, [MENTION=28490]Machiavelli[/MENTION] would win. Entirely hypothetical though.

Goldstone1976 · Sep 16, 2015

Machiavelli said:
On this at least @Triggaaar is being cleverer than the both of us. He's right, I think, but I can't quite explain how/why. But can we agree that the aim of it is that it's a curiosity and at least one of us gives some money to REMF.

Yep. The point is mostly to get some cash to REMF, with a secondary objective of getting some kudos over you. :thumbsup:

See above post where I "mention" you - in Trigaaaar's scenario, you win.

Machiavelli · Sep 16, 2015

Goldstone1976 said:
Yep. The point is mostly to get some cash to REMF, with a secondary objective of getting some kudos over you.

See above post where I "mention" you - in Trigaaaar's scenario, you win.

Is that an image of a 47 Cheval Blanc? If so, secondary objective already achieved (although that wasn't really in doubt).

Whatever, Yule loose.

Cheshire Cat · Sep 16, 2015

Never trust a BHA team not to screw it up spectacularly at some point in the season.

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