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You're right, it doesn't really matter but I find it an interesting debate. And influence can mean music or much much wider...you decide.
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Kraftwerk - More influential than the Beatles?
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You're right, it doesn't really matter but I find it an interesting debate. And influence can mean music or much much wider...you decide.
JamesAndTheGiantHead
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But the Beatles invented music? 
AmexRuislip
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Just watched programme, brilliant, and yes I think they did do more than the Beatles.
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As an aside, isn't that performance of Pocket Calculator near the end just brilliantly bonkers?
Buzzer
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And equally validly you could say the converse. I'm not sure even where you begin to measure such a statement.
Return of the Rev
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Helped kick off electro music early 80's which carried through to new romantic. And the beatles inspired oasis and the herbie films! No contest!
vegster
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Don't get me started on Cohen, I don't get it and never will, tragically for me.
But, getting back to the original point, I still don't think Kraftwerk were more influential then The Beatles, it's hardly Apples and Pears, more Date's and Raspberries.
Tony Towner's Fridge
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I sincerely believe you are wrong! Everyone knows it was Charles Darwin.
Jeez!
TNBA
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Hi to anyone who hasn't yet come across me on the live music thread.
There's certainly a strong case for saying Kraftwerk (just to make it clear, I love 'em too) are more influential on the sound of contemporary music, and surely that's what Morley was getting at in his provocative way. Whether that influence is entirely benign is something you might question, considering the amount of machine-generated drivel there is around.
FWIW I thought the premise of the programme was pretty irritating. I'm far from averse to a bit of cultural commentary, but when people are so desperate to legitimise some element of popular culture by claiming it as art, my response is pretty much 'So what?'
There's certainly a strong case for saying Kraftwerk (just to make it clear, I love 'em too) are more influential on the sound of contemporary music, and surely that's what Morley was getting at in his provocative way. Whether that influence is entirely benign is something you might question, considering the amount of machine-generated drivel there is around.
FWIW I thought the premise of the programme was pretty irritating. I'm far from averse to a bit of cultural commentary, but when people are so desperate to legitimise some element of popular culture by claiming it as art, my response is pretty much 'So what?'
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https://royalsociety.org/news/2015/05/scientists-track-the-hip-hop-revolution/
These very intelligent people have PROVED The Beatles didn't influence anything.
These very intelligent people have PROVED The Beatles didn't influence anything.
boik
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Yes, but that survey was only in America, where the music landscape has always been a bit on the er, unadventurous side.
Cadiz Seagull
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In the history of music, two bands stand out. Two changed the course of music more than any others. Two major influences that changed the course of music history.
Bill Hayley and the Comets invented - or at least poularised - rock and roll.
And the Beatles gave kids their own music; up until them kids listened to a slightly updated version of the music their Mum's and Dad's liked.
Mind you, Ben Nevis and the Summits were pretty good too.
Bill Hayley and the Comets invented - or at least poularised - rock and roll.
And the Beatles gave kids their own music; up until them kids listened to a slightly updated version of the music their Mum's and Dad's liked.
Mind you, Ben Nevis and the Summits were pretty good too.
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fat old seagull
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Surely it's Ballax! Kraftwerk could never have influenced 'The Monkees' like the Fab Four did 
GT49er
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The biggest influence on Techno music was synthesisers (and drum machines, and later, sampling devices) becoming user friendly and commercially available.
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nicko31
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Can see the point Kraft started a real change in music type..
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This and black kids getting fed up with Motown.
Fair comment. In my defence I though it might make a change from the usual racism and politics threads
I wonder who they were started by and bored us to death?mmmmmmmmm