If Barnes starts on Saturday...

Simster · Nov 28, 2012

...is there any danger of him being BACKED by our support, and not booed? He was absolute turd on Saturday of course, but was absolutely slaughtered for it. So much so, that he looked like a broken man when he was taken off - I really felt for him.

In fact, to the many many complete mongs who scream dogs abuse at players when they play shit (as opposed to groaning or laughing at the ineptitude) need to realise that when a player is having a shit game, they tend to know about it themselves. They don't need numpties abusing them for it.

Tony Meolas Loan Spell · Nov 28, 2012

I reckon he will start. Double marking Zaha with Painter (if Bridge not fit)

Acker79 · Nov 28, 2012

I wonder if, since zaha is such a threat, barnes would play even if Bridge is fit.

I think it's a game v palace, there should be no room for moaning at our own players.

Marshy · Nov 28, 2012

Barnes and CMS will come back in I am sure.

Mellotron · Nov 28, 2012

Our away fans will be more supportive, I hope.

Commander · Nov 28, 2012

Simster said:
...is there any danger of him being BACKED by our support, and not booed? He was absolute turd on Saturday of course, but was absolutely slaughtered for it. So much so, that he looked like a broken man when he was taken off - I really felt for him.

In fact, to the many many complete mongs who scream dogs abuse at players when they play shit (as opposed to groaning or laughing at the ineptitude) need to realise that when a player is having a shit game, they tend to know about it themselves. They don't need numpties abusing them for it.

Probably not. And you're absolutely right. When I'm having a bad day at work, I know I'm having a bad day at work. And when I've got people moaning at me that I'm having a bad day it work, it really doesn't help. And I only have a maximum of about 4 people moaning at me. Imagine what it's like with 25,000. The only thing I really think it is fair to give your own players proper stick for is a lack of effort, and nobody could accuse Barnes of that.

I would have thought he'll be back for Palace, we need to be a solid unit going there, and he is exactly the kind of player we need. Wouldn't surprise me if he scores and important penalty, again.

Brian Fantana · Nov 28, 2012

Exactly. I have never had cause to believe that Barnes has ever given anything less than 100% whenever he has played. Sure he has had a few bad games, but so have almost all the rest of the players.

Albumen · Nov 28, 2012

We missed him last night.

Return of the Rev · Nov 28, 2012

Barnes to come on in 2nd half and score the winner

Lush · Nov 28, 2012

Barnes was also one of the better players at Selhurst last year AND scored a penalty!

Simster · Nov 28, 2012

Commander said:
When I'm having a bad day at work, I know I'm having a bad day at work. And when I've got people moaning at me that I'm having a bad day it work, it really doesn't help. And I only have a maximum of about 4 people moaning at me. Imagine what it's like with 25,000.

Small point of order - it was nothing like 25,000 screaming at him ridiculously on Saturday. I've no idea how many it was, and that's the problem - it doesn't take many for a player's morale to be sapped. As I say, it was awful watching him come off, he looked a bit of a mess and went straight down the tunnel. Sad scenes for someone who has been a hardworking, decent player for us for nearly 3 years now.

clippedgull · Nov 28, 2012

Mellotron said:
Our away fans will be more supportive, I hope.

Craig Davies @ MK Dons... Not always.

albion534 · Nov 28, 2012

clippedgull said:
Craig Davies @ MK Dons... Not always.

That was borderline comical though

krakatoa · Nov 28, 2012

Quite agree. Bloke next to me in the west upper can't wait to have a go at Barnes each week, the minute he puts a foot wrong, to such an extent it nearly caused a ruck with the fella in front of him. Some fans at the Albion seem to need to have a whipping boy, always been the case. Used to be Wendy Wilkins once.

chucky1973 · Nov 28, 2012

I hope he does not start on Saturday, not for any other reason than that its a negative team if he does, like the look of CMS and Hoskins up front and let the defence take care of Zaha. You might as well put Calderon in the "Barnes Role" if we are that worried about him, he gets forward as much and arguble a better finisher.

Barnes to come off bench if need be.

JBizzle · Nov 28, 2012

Personally, I think a small section and I mean a small section, of our fans are an utter disgrace. And this is not specifically in relation to Barnes. I have about 6 people who sit around me in WSL that spend 90 minutes giving dogs abuse to our own players irrespective of how we're playing with the only break being when we score.

As I said in another post, if Harley if playing, he's target no.1; if Barnes is playing, he's target no. 2; CMS, no.3; Greer, no.4; Kuszczak, no.5 it seems. And essentially its a pecking order. So if Barnes plays but Harley doesn't (which is likely), Barnes gets hammered for 90 minutes irrespective of performance and the rest get let off. If Harley and Barnes aren't playing, CMS gets the abuse etc etc...

This is from guys in their late 50's and 60's. Two of them, Statler and Waldorf as I call them, are the worst though, no joy, just endless criticism. We don't get on because I disagree with their endless berating of our players and they don't agree with my defence of them. Probably because I feel the need to over-defend our players now-and-then to get my point across.

Right, rant over. On to Saturday. Personally I think we'll be back to the team that beat Bolton with Bridge in for Painter...

Simster · Nov 28, 2012

chucky1973 said:
I hope he does not start on Saturday, not for any other reason than that its a negative team if he does, like the look of CMS and Hoskins up front and let the defence take care of Zaha. You might as well put Calderon in the "Barnes Role" if we are that worried about him, he gets forward as much and arguble a better finisher.

Barnes to come off bench if need be.

We're away to the team in second place, and who have probably the most coveted attacking player in the division. And you don't want us to be defensive?

leigull · Nov 28, 2012

I'd want/expect Barnes to be back on Saturday. Will need his defensive skills and despite recent performances in front of goal, can never be discounted for scoring a goal or two because of the positions he gets himself into. So would go with a front 3 of Barnes/CMS/Buckley with Dobbie/Hoskins on the bench.

Really hope Bridge starts as worried about Painter against Zaha/Bolasie.

The Large One · Nov 28, 2012

Booing and abuse should be reserved in extremis for players cheating the team and fans, not for someone having a bad game, or on a poor run of form.

When a player is trying, properly trying, and things aren't coming off, I have absolutely no idea what the purpose or function of booing is, aside from maybe making a few airheads feel better about themselves.

The Large One · Nov 28, 2012

leigull said:
I'd want/expect Barnes to be back on Saturday. Will need his defensive skills and despite recent performances in front of goal, can never be discounted for scoring a goal or two because of the positions he gets himself into. So would go with a front 3 of Barnes/CMS/Buckley with Dobbie/Hoskins on the bench.

This. He's also become a far more physical nuisance for the opposition defenders.

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