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applying that term to slavic peoples is a bit dodgy to be fair. according to people who need to sell papers and news streams belongings have been looted. could well be they are looking for documentation and identification, they are hardly just going to leave stuff lying around eh.

like gibraltar or cyprus? i havent got a mixed up head martyn, this is fact and the reality. 'international law' does not really exist, in the sense you perceive it for some reason.

martyn you seem to think there is some sort of international law that defends sovereignty or the legal status of nations, or territorial rights, above and beyond sheer muscle and power and influence. That's the reality of the world, your view is somewhat 2d. Cyprus and Gibraltar are classic...

gibraltar is still a diplomatic thorn in our side and decolonisation of cyprus was a disaster (funnily enough its the 40th anniversary of the invasion today). The sovereign bases are very much on the table for a solution, Cyprus is not as trategically important as you think nowadays...

perhaps it wasnt their decision on a commercial basis, rather their insurers that tipped the balance based on their analysis, or governmental influences were bought to bear, making these policies minor political statements or sanctions-lite, like some of the arab carriers have done re flights...

none as its tiny and not massive and on a key intercontinental flight path unlike Ukraine. i would not have the answer for why Malaysian Airways think its safe enough, as there is no such airline.

or when discussing perfectly reasonable flight paths. your belief that no one should be flying over a region where long range anti aircraft missiles are deployed would basically ground most civil aviation globally. Hindsight based opinion Martyn with no acknowledgement of the realities. Do...

its trying to make sense of a random world. the concept of conflicting motivations, and the sheer volume of peoples actions that affect others, is difficult to grasp for some. they need rationalisation, some people cannot accept due to whatever reason, that the world is uncontrollable and...