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Err ... I think I can safely say that the people standing in the first pic or two were not even spoken to by the stewards at the time of the "incident" that is the subject of the photos. They won't be banned for it, either. But if you must feel so paranoid about the stewarding at Withdean...

As it happens, I know the answer to that one. I left my lad (he was eighteen at the time) to take the consequences of the particular piece of idiocy that he was responsible for at the Goldstone. The nice police officer let him off, though.

Is that so? What a remarkable COINCIDENCE that the person who is reported earlier in this thread to have encroached beyond the barriers ONLY because "a steward had dragged him on there" turns out to be the father of the lad who had been nicked two minutes earlier. What are the odds of that...

Here are the photos (images 5 to 25 in this gallery):- Roz South - All Things Brighton Beautiful | BHAFC -v- Swansea I see no evidence of an assault, just evidence of a standard restraint technique being used.

No doubt. I was making the point that the restraint techniques that I saw in action yesterday seemed to me to be consistent with the techniques that I am familiar with (as an observer) from my knowledge of the training that used to be given to social services staff. To describe yesterday's...

The training courses that I am familiar with were aimed at local authority professionals dealing with school-age children. I dare say the SAS courses are rather different. My point is that the RIGHT training needs to be given. A level appropriate to stewards is perfectly achievable.

I'm not sure that this is the case. The football club is responsible for enforcing the rules that forbid pitch incursions. I, for one, don't want the police to take the initiative in deciding how to enforce ground regulations. That way lies real trouble.

That raises an interesting issue. Do we want Withdean stewards to receive training in control and restraint techniques? Or do we want them to make it up as they go along? I think "fascism" is characterised by the authorities being quite happy to employ mindless thugs to keep order. Sending...

My observation, for what it's worth, on the steward who is getting all the stick for going over the top, is that the arm-lock and hand-hold that he was using were well-executed examples of restraint techniques that are TAUGHT on training courses. The hand-hold looks fierce, but it doesn't cause...

The incident came very close to disrupting the start of the players' lap of honour. There were some people in H-Block who seemed more intent on abusing the stewards than paying tribute to the team. Nothing new there, I guess. If they had kept going for just ten seconds more, I would have...