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Yes, I see now. It's a mess. Off to beddybies now, so will think about it. It's a bloody mess. Yes, just a fine. No embargo

I'm not sure I understand your scenario. If the league kicked out QPR now and made up the numbers in the Championship from the leagues below, what happens if QPR win the court case and have to be re-instated? It would be less trouble to kick them out later if they lose the court case and refuse...

I think the bits in bold are the crux. I would think that a court will rule that because they joined the championship after relegation, they implicitly agreed to the rules of the FL ie you joined the "club" and therefore agreed to abide by their rules. The only reason I can think that the FL...

Indeed. Do you mean then that QPR will be challenging the rules on the grounds that they were not in the FL when they were made? In other words, they did not agree to them and are not therefore bound by them. Or challenging them on some other terms? What I mean is that as Leeds etc have had...

Wouldn't the fact that sanctions have been imposed, and accepted, on other members without being challenged, make the rules more viable though?

By bottling it do you mean letting them off paying the fine? That should only happen with the members agreement surely, unless QPR successfully challenge the legality of the rules.

If QPR can convince a court that the FFP rules are not legal, then this version of FFP will be somewhat damaged, yes! And charity/charities will be 58m quid worse off

Just saw this article on the BBC. Essentially QPR will not be barred from the Championship. Which is a shame. Legal process re the fine may not be resolved before the start of the season. What a surprise! Queens Park Rangers will not be barred from the Championship despite being accused of...

I did not know that, thanks. Another poor rule then - cheat, stay up and get a few years in the PL without penalty.

I wonder if Leicester have paid their fine? If so, there is the precedent. Not that they need one as QPR are guilty as charged m'lud.

Yes, I was just expanding on the explanation given for why the rules were changed. Makes no difference to QPR #cheats

PB explained that there were two parts to the package being offered by the PL. The first part was to tie up FL solidarity payments from the PL with any increase in tv rights - so if the tv rights go up by 50%, then the solidarity payments to the FL go up by 50%. The second part was changing the...

Interesting, thanks. Is the wage cap at 52m not part of FFP though, or was it a separate regulation that the PL drew up alongside FFP? To me the fact that only 3 clubs made a loss in that season shows a signal of intent that they do want to get their house in order (well most anyway) which I...

Morning! I posted the following comment on your Money Money Money article. I know that you do not believe in FFP, but was just wondering what your thoughts were? I see that from the 2014 figures, only 3 existing PL teams made a loss during that period - Man City, Aston Villa and Sunderland...

Only 3 of the existing clubs in the PL made a loss last season, so something is working.