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Yes, I know about the claim. I also know that it is a load of baloney and has even been dismissed by the club's official historian. That's why I'm asking if they were singing about it because that would be mental. I'm sure I heard them sing several times a typical palace dirge that contained...

So we're no closer to finding out if palace were singing about being formed in 1861? Would any of the palace that used to plague the board but now linger in the shadows like to answer? Is it a chant? Was it bout being formed in 1861? Or was I hearing things in the early hours of the...

That's the mystery. What the actual f*** were they singing about? Part of me wants to believe that they're such a bunch of bellends that they actually would sing about a made up fantasy that they're the oldest club in the world and instrumental to the development and establishment of the...

In the first half palace were singing a dirge where the only line I could make out was 'since 1861' What was the song? Were they singing about their risible claim of being the ldest fotball club in the world? Or was it something else?