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CheeseRolls

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Zeberdi said:
Isn’t it rather disconcerting this speculation about RDZ’s replacement is even going on? There’s absolutely no evidence yet that RDZ has announced he is leaving at the end of the season - in fact, his pressers, when pushed, have given nothing other than his feelings about the current performances, matches, squad and nothing about next season other than he has ambition for the Club and it depends on whether TB and PB share the same ambition in the same timescale (vis a vis investment) - presumably that talk will be going in the coming weeks:

March Pressers:

“When pressed on whether he would remain in his current role next season, he added: “Yes. I have a contract. I have decided nothing. My focus is on Brighton – 100 per cent.”

"I would like to play next season again in Europe because this season we are paying a big price on the first experience of the Europa League," added De Zerbi. "The second experience can be easier.”

“We didn’t find agreement, (on signing a new contract yet) but it’s only part of it. The big part is the plan (for the club).
“I need to speak to Tony Bloom (owner and chairman) about the plan for the club in order to decide my future, I want to know what is the project. I want to keep my ambition.

“My relationship with my players and the fans can’t change depending on the future. What we have done is history and no one can forget it.”

What is clear, is that fan support (or lack of it) can seriously influence a Club or Coach’s decision about his future- there’s been months of anti-RDZ threads on NSC and now we are into speculating on who has replaced him - if NSCers want him gone, I would say this is going the right way about it imo because all this chatter feeds into social media and mainstream media as “Brighton fans say” …

www.brightonandhovenews.org

De Zerbi fully focused on Brighton and Hove Albion amid speculation over future

Brighton and Hove Albion boss Roberto De Zerbi said that he would remain at the club beyond this season after
www.brightonandhovenews.org www.brightonandhovenews.org
www.bbc.co.uk

Brighton news: Roberto de Zerbi says second experience of European football 'can be easier'

Brighton news: Roberto de Zerbi says second experience of European football 'can be easier'
www.bbc.co.uk
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Yes but are you taking into account fan sentiment here? There is an overwhelming number of posts on NSC this week wanting shot of De Zerbi (the majority from a small number of empty vessel posters).
 






hans kraay fan club

hans kraay fan club

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IF DeZerbi doesn't want to be here, then I for one, would be happy with Thomas Frank as a replacement. He's a good manger, with similar level experience, and used to a similar model (data driven recruitment / having his players developed then sold / having to bring through younger players). Done a great job at Brentford, but seems to have gone a bit stale there.
 


dwayne

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Guinness Boy said:
In other words, trolling yet again. You have the uncanny knack of saying things no one wants to read at exactly the time they don't want to read it.

If you can prove the above is even true, the last bit that your argument is actually reduced to, then they will be in breach of profit and sustainability.

One of the biggest whinges in the football media this season has been Martin Samuels, schilling for the Saudis, saying that Newcastle should be allowed to spend what they want, because they have the money available. But that's not how P&S works. A team with a ground a third our size, who are even less popular than us on telly, spending more than us are breaking the rules.

But can you prove they're doing it ???
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Just because you're ego can't take the truth doesn't mean it's not true. They've spent 100m more on their squad in the last few years than we have. I don't know for a fact that their wages will be more than ours this season or next but the trajectory they are on suggests they will be. Their model is different to ours but they can and will spend more than us.
 


Guinness Boy

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dwayne said:
Just because you're ego can't take the truth doesn't mean it's not true. They've spent 100m more on their squad in the last few years than we have. I don't know for a fact that their wages will be more than ours this season or next but the trajectory they are on suggests they will be. Their model is different to ours but they can and will spend more than us.
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"Can" is simply wrong.

They're breaching P&S rules, maybe not this season but certainly next, because they're a teeny, tiny team with no fans and no real income. Newcastle CANNOT spend the Saudi dollars they have with their huge ground, regular TV games and international profile.

Forest spent more on transfers than us. That went well.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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dwayne said:
Saying all that, if RDZ turns up at the fans forum tonight and is talking about next season then this rumour would be a bit odd.
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Unless this he’s saying he’ll enjoy working with Salah or Kane?
 


Kalimantan Gull

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dwayne said:
Just because you're ego can't take the truth doesn't mean it's not true. They've spent 100m more on their squad in the last few years than we have. I don't know for a fact that their wages will be more than ours this season or next but the trajectory they are on suggests they will be. Their model is different to ours but they can and will spend more than us.
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Just because they have spent more on their squad doesn't mean their squad is worth more than ours
 






Justice

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hans kraay fan club said:
IF DeZerbi doesn't want to be here, then I for one, would be happy with Thomas Frank as a replacement. He's a good manger, with similar level experience, and used to a similar model (data driven recruitment / having his players developed then sold / having to bring through younger players). Done a great job at Brentford, but seems to have gone a bit stale there.
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And that’s a big IF
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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dwayne said:
Just because you're ego can't take the truth doesn't mean it's not true. They've spent 100m more on their squad in the last few years than we have. I don't know for a fact that their wages will be more than ours this season or next but the trajectory they are on suggests they will be. Their model is different to ours but they can and will spend more than us.
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They haven't actually spent £100m more on their squad than us over the last few years. Since their promotion they've spent approx £180m on players, in that same time we've spent £140m . However they've recouped about £1m in player sales, where as we've had over £285m back into the club in player sales alone. So their net spend may be over £100m more than us, but their current level of spending is not sustainable in the long run.

As someone else said if Newcastle can't spend the Saudi money with their stadium, fan numbers, being more desirable for TV games etc, then Bournemouth with a stadium that is small by even League one standards have no chance of sustaining this current spending level without breaking the profit and sustainability rules. It doesn't matter how rich the owners are they simply cannot generate the income levels required.
 






dazzer6666

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Zeberdi said:
Isn’t it rather disconcerting this speculation about RDZ’s replacement is even going on? There’s absolutely no evidence yet that RDZ has announced he is leaving at the end of the season - in fact, his pressers, when pushed, have given nothing other than his feelings about the current performances, matches, squad and nothing about next season other than he has ambition for the Club and it depends on whether TB and PB share the same ambition in the same timescale (vis a vis investment) - presumably that talk will be going in the coming weeks:

March Pressers:

“When pressed on whether he would remain in his current role next season, he added: “Yes. I have a contract. I have decided nothing. My focus is on Brighton – 100 per cent.”

"I would like to play next season again in Europe because this season we are paying a big price on the first experience of the Europa League," added De Zerbi. "The second experience can be easier.”

“We didn’t find agreement, (on signing a new contract yet) but it’s only part of it. The big part is the plan (for the club).
“I need to speak to Tony Bloom (owner and chairman) about the plan for the club in order to decide my future, I want to know what is the project. I want to keep my ambition.

“My relationship with my players and the fans can’t change depending on the future. What we have done is history and no one can forget it.”

What is clear, is that fan support (or lack of it) can seriously influence a Club or Coach’s decision about his future- there’s been months of anti-RDZ threads on NSC and now we are into speculating on who has replaced him - if NSCers want him gone, I would say this is going the right way about it imo because all this chatter feeds into social media and mainstream media as “Brighton fans say” …

www.brightonandhovenews.org

De Zerbi fully focused on Brighton and Hove Albion amid speculation over future

Brighton and Hove Albion boss Roberto De Zerbi said that he would remain at the club beyond this season after
www.brightonandhovenews.org www.brightonandhovenews.org
www.bbc.co.uk

Brighton news: Roberto de Zerbi says second experience of European football 'can be easier'

Brighton news: Roberto de Zerbi says second experience of European football 'can be easier'
www.bbc.co.uk
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Already been stated on here by someone that he told the players he was leaving. FACT
 










Justice

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Zeberdi said:
Isn’t it rather disconcerting this speculation about RDZ’s replacement is even going on? There’s absolutely no evidence yet that RDZ has announced he is leaving at the end of the season - in fact, his pressers, when pushed, have given nothing other than his feelings about the current performances, matches, squad and nothing about next season other than he has ambition for the Club and it depends on whether TB and PB share the same ambition in the same timescale (vis a vis investment) - presumably that talk will be going in the coming weeks:

March Pressers:

“When pressed on whether he would remain in his current role next season, he added: “Yes. I have a contract. I have decided nothing. My focus is on Brighton – 100 per cent.”

"I would like to play next season again in Europe because this season we are paying a big price on the first experience of the Europa League," added De Zerbi. "The second experience can be easier.”

“We didn’t find agreement, (on signing a new contract yet) but it’s only part of it. The big part is the plan (for the club).
“I need to speak to Tony Bloom (owner and chairman) about the plan for the club in order to decide my future, I want to know what is the project. I want to keep my ambition.

“My relationship with my players and the fans can’t change depending on the future. What we have done is history and no one can forget it.”

What is clear, is that fan support (or lack of it) can seriously influence a Club or Coach’s decision about his future- there’s been months of anti-RDZ threads on NSC and now we are into speculating on who has replaced him - if NSCers want him gone, I would say this is going the right way about it imo because all this chatter feeds into social media and mainstream media as “Brighton fans say” …

www.brightonandhovenews.org

De Zerbi fully focused on Brighton and Hove Albion amid speculation over future

Brighton and Hove Albion boss Roberto De Zerbi said that he would remain at the club beyond this season after
www.brightonandhovenews.org www.brightonandhovenews.org
www.bbc.co.uk

Brighton news: Roberto de Zerbi says second experience of European football 'can be easier'

Brighton news: Roberto de Zerbi says second experience of European football 'can be easier'
www.bbc.co.uk
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You don’t believe all of this nonsense do you? Mangers/players are always happy until a bigger club/better offer comes their way.
 




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Frank can f*ck right off, anyone who constantly chews gum with their mouth open doesn’t meet my approval……..
 




Zeberdi

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CheeseRolls said:
Yes but are you taking into account fan sentiment here? There is an overwhelming number of posts on NSC this week wanting shot of De Zerbi (the majority from a small number of empty vessel posters).
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We have no means of judging what the other 25-30,000 odd Brighton fans feel about RDZ that aren’t NSCers nor do the Club or MSM - It‘s online fanzones and social media that journalists look to read the room. The anti-RDZ debate on NSChas been largely dominated by a minority of very vocal posters starting endless threads criticising him or flat out calling for him to go, the silent majority have been just that. All I know is of the 500 fans or so who voted on @Bozza ‘s ‘Are you falling out of Love?’ thread, the majority voted that they are still behind RDZ but that has not been reflected in discussions.

Having said that, there has been a broader discussion in the past week where the broader sentiment seems to be to give RDZ a chance to turn it round with a replenished and fit squad ( if TB/PB agree). Oddly? that has coincided with a few of those same minority RDZ OUT posters upping the temperature and now assuming he’s left and making up stories of who he has been replaced with.

Of course the guesswork could be right but where is the evidence? However, if the silent majority still want to see RDZ here next season maybe now is the time to start making some noise..
 


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Zeberdi said:
We have no means of judging what the other 25-30,000 odd Brighton fans feel about RDZ that aren’t NSCers nor do the Club or MSM - It‘s online fanzones and social media that journalists look to read the room. The anti-RDZ debate on NSChas been largely dominated by a minority of very vocal posters starting endless threads criticising him or flat out calling for him to go, the silent majority have been just that. All I know is of the 500 fans or so who voted on @Bozza ‘s ‘Are you falling out of Love?’ thread, the majority voted that they are still behind RDZ but that has not been reflected in discussions.

Having said that, there has been a broader discussion in the past week where the broader sentiment seems to be to give RDZ a chance to turn it round with a replenished and fit squad ( if TB/PB agree). Oddly? that has coincided with a few of those same minority RDZ OUT posters upping the temperature and now assuming he’s left and making up stories of who he has been replaced with.

Of course the guesswork could be right but where is the evidence? However, if the silent majority still want to see RDZ here next season maybe now is the time to start making some noise..
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I bet you love watching paint dry
 


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