jonny.rainbow
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- Oct 29, 2005
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Another time Adrian Morris’s investigative process has been called into question:
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MTSeagulls
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- Sep 18, 2019
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Talk about besmirching!
Please, please stop these 2+2=768 accusations.
I’m in hospital with my mum and simply don’t have the time right now to protect people from themselves when they throw around unfounded accusations.
I don’t want to shut discussion of this inportent subject down. I don’t want to ban people from the site to protect themselves from libelling their way to financial ruin. But I will if I have to.
The club are rightfully very protective of their employees, like all organisations should be, and I know they are unlikely to hesitate taking all required steps they need to follow as part of that.
Let the inquiry run its course, and the police do their job.
I’m in hospital with my mum and simply don’t have the time right now to protect people from themselves when they throw around unfounded accusations.
I don’t want to shut discussion of this inportent subject down. I don’t want to ban people from the site to protect themselves from libelling their way to financial ruin. But I will if I have to.
The club are rightfully very protective of their employees, like all organisations should be, and I know they are unlikely to hesitate taking all required steps they need to follow as part of that.
Let the inquiry run its course, and the police do their job.
schmunk
"Members"
Has he personally been found to have done anything illegal/immoral, or was he just getting his hands dirty at the behest of higher-ups?
Post Office investigator landed Premier League club job after Horizon scandal
Former investigator Adrian Morris joined Brighton and Hove Albion the year after giving evidence at the trial of wrongfully convicted sub-postmistress Seema Misrawww.mirror.co.uk
I'm slightly concerned that we haven't "let him go". For a club that is rightfully concerned about its reputation and "doing the right thing", I think there are very few that would say that by employing this fella they are doing the "right thing".
Oh wait! At the end of the article he said he was "sorry". And as we know, that makes everything ok. As you were.
Edit: sorry, Bozza posted whilst I was composing. I won't delete, but happy that we don't continue the conversation.
Nothing at all that I'm aware of.
Is it possible that individual hands-on investigators did not know the extent of the Horizon issues, as they were handed case after case to investigate? Maybe, maybe not - simply none of us know. It could be the case that higher levels of management, where there clearly was knowledge, did not cascade that down to the rank-and-file.
And just because someone is alleged to have been unpleasant and aggressive in the way they went about their work, again it doesn't mean they had knowledge of the underlying Horizon issues.
I completely understand that some people are unhappy about their interactions with the club and, in many cases, I'm massively sympathetic to that. And I know that those same people have a greater interest in this story because of what they see as a common link.
But we have to be careful of finding people guilty by association.
Quite.
The scandal only became so big because people assumed guilt before investigating properly.
The scandal only became so big because people assumed guilt before investigating properly.
Miximate
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Just watching Alan Bates give evidence. Give that man a medal for his professionalism, persistence and determination!
Hope your mum’s ok mate. You shouldn’t be having to worry about NSC right now.
Leekbrookgull
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Can this inquiry actually lead to any prosecutions to those at the Post Office senior management ?
Leekbrookgull
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Bit harsh that Trig.
Cook and Crozier denying they knew anything about the issue and prosecutions somewhat shows up how useless they were at their jobs.
vegster
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- May 5, 2008
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The real scandal is the delay in compensating and exonerating the Sub-Postmasters. As ever with government scandals, an inquiry is slowly done with its conclusions kicked as far down the road as possible so that by the time we get there, we have all " moved on " and many of the victims are dead.
This means little shit sticks to the government and the financial compensation is delayed/reduced. This has happened time and time again in my lifetime and will continue ad infinitum.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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It's the easy option, and, they will get away with it as ever.
dejavuatbtn
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As a lass would once have reflected, “they would have said that wouldn’t they”.
Miximate
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Rodric Williams (PO Lawyer) being absolutely hung drawn and quartered by the skillful KC Jason Beer! Its akin to death by 1000 cuts!!
Just reading the updates on the BBC from PO Legal Counsel. Paula Vennells really does belong in prison .... and long may she rot there.
Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
Put 22nd, 23rd & 24th May into your diary. PV in the dock those days.
I would imagine right now, in between counting her money, she is practising saying 'I'm sorry, I don't recall'
I would imagine right now, in between counting her money, she is practising saying 'I'm sorry, I don't recall'
A bad day for Chris Aujard, the PO’s senior inhouse lawyer until 2015, and for Vennell. They were made aware by their external forensic investigators that Horizon was creating false ‘funds’ at sub post offices, yet they carried on regardless, thus defrauding the sub post office masters. For their troubles, the firm were sacked.
And others.