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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I see that Call me Dave has just met up with Trump. One of the Orange Monster’s followers offered him out……

“Lord Cameron has been urging Republicans for some time to approve the aid package, particularly angering Republican congresswoman and Trump loyalist Marjorie Taylor-Greene, who told the foreign secretary to "kiss my ass".” BBC
It seems everyone else has. Uber Christian MTG isn’t averse to adultery.
 






chickens

Intending to survive this time of asset strippers
Oct 12, 2022
1,875
Absolutely no proof if this, the republicans have being going after Biden’s son and have come up with nothing other than looking like idiots.

@lasvegan is capable of incredible mental gymnastics and whataboutery.

Every unproven allegation against Biden or his family is FACT, and takes on direct equivalence to Trump’s actions in his eyes.

Every actual recorded and publicly available case against Trump is FAKE NEWS, and a WITCH HUNT. Trump is being PERSECUTED.

Let’s be honest, Trump has been searching for mud to throw at Biden for years, and it’s eating him up that he hasn’t found anything with substance that lands on the spot.

Biden has largely ignored the noise, and got on with his job. That’s a measure of the two men in itself. One working with dignity, the other raging and snarling about how he’s going to lock his political opponents up. How very American, the land of the free.

In the meantime some of Trump’s more dubious business practices have been uncovered and investigated, not at Biden’s request, but by state lawmakers, and Trump’s records include proven demonstrable falsehoods (the man incapable of using a tape measure correctly should not be entrusted with leadership of the free world) and yet this isn’t fraud in Trump’s eyes, it’s VICTIMISATION.

The information in the linked to PDF demonstrates that Trump’s case is one of many, many cases that the New York DA’s office are considering, or have considered, undermining Trump’s claim that he’s being singled out for special treatment.


He’s just another defendant, and seemingly one who’s been caught bang to rights based on the evidence presented.
 


peterward

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 11, 2009
11,370
Top work.

Me? I struggle. Sixty years of dealing with people through the prism of my autism by the only means I imagined possible (being aggressive and confrontational) have made being nice . . . . tricky (ahem).

But, like John Lydon, I (also do) try so hard to be nice :lolol: :wink:
Shoeboxed around the rifle range
Have all your functions rearranged
Your mind and body gagged and bound
On a new familiar playing ground
@Crawley Dingo will ignore
Whatever they cannot explain
As if nothing ever happened
And everything remained the same again.....

Or something like this!
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
4,913
Mid Sussex
@lasvegan is capable of incredible mental gymnastics and whataboutery.

Every unproven allegation against Biden or his family is FACT, and takes on direct equivalence to Trump’s actions in his eyes.

Every actual recorded and publicly available case against Trump is FAKE NEWS, and a WITCH HUNT. Trump is being PERSECUTED.

Let’s be honest, Trump has been searching for mud to throw at Biden for years, and it’s eating him up that he hasn’t found anything with substance that lands on the spot.

Biden has largely ignored the noise, and got on with his job. That’s a measure of the two men in itself. One working with dignity, the other raging and snarling about how he’s going to lock his political opponents up. How very American, the land of the free.

In the meantime some of Trump’s more dubious business practices have been uncovered and investigated, not at Biden’s request, but by state lawmakers, and Trump’s records include proven demonstrable falsehoods (the man incapable of using a tape measure correctly should not be entrusted with leadership of the free world) and yet this isn’t fraud in Trump’s eyes, it’s VICTIMISATION.

The information in the linked to PDF demonstrates that Trump’s case is one of many, many cases that the New York DA’s office are considering, or have considered, undermining Trump’s claim that he’s being singled out for special treatment.


He’s just another defendant, and seemingly one who’s been caught bang to rights based on the evidence presented.
So in summary @lasvegan is a delusional and living in cloud cuckoo land … like Trump but hopefully without the pending criminal prosecutions and FAKE tan!
 






chickens

Intending to survive this time of asset strippers
Oct 12, 2022
1,875
So in summary @lasvegan is a delusional and living in cloud cuckoo land … like Trump but hopefully without the pending criminal prosecutions and FAKE tan!

This is where as a character @lasvegan intrigues me. In some respects he’s quite level-headed (by the standard of Trump supporters)

Rather than accept that his preferred party have gone significantly off the rails, and are defending a charismatic grifter detached from reality, he’s drinking deeply of the Kool Aid and doing a stand up job as a defender of the faith. Intellectually this has to be taking him to some quite dark places as he’s forced to trot out attack lines he can’t fully believe himself and perform mental ju-jitsu to stop the logical disconnects from imploding his brain.

However, it appears that in America the politics is dumbed down to a horribly over-simplistic “support your team” mentality, where it doesn’t matter how wrong or batshit crazy your guy is, they are your guy. All the while that mentality is maintained, America will risk putting fools like Trump in positions of power.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
This is where as a character @lasvegan intrigues me. In some respects he’s quite level-headed (by the standard of Trump supporters)

Rather than accept that his preferred party have gone significantly off the rails, and are defending a charismatic grifter detached from reality, he’s drinking deeply of the Kool Aid and doing a stand up job as a defender of the faith. Intellectually this has to be taking him to some quite dark places as he’s forced to trot out attack lines he can’t fully believe himself and perform mental ju-jitsu to stop the logical disconnects from imploding his brain.

However, it appears that in America the politics is dumbed down to a horribly over-simplistic “support your team” mentality, where it doesn’t matter how wrong or batshit crazy your guy is, they are your guy. All the while that mentality is maintained, America will risk putting fools like Trump in positions of power.
I can understand a Republican wanting a Republican to win, but why aren’t retired Republicans like George Bush endorsing him?
There are Republicans against Trump, however.

 




Zeberdi

Brighton born & bred
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
4,896
He doesn’t write his speeches. Presidents have used speech writers for decades.
When have you ever known Trump to stick to an auto-cue 😂 His violent, paranoid, narcissistic ramblings and his brain-addled faux pas is all off cue. It is these comments that social media and MSN respond to, not anything he says about policy. Trump is probably a nightmare for scriptwriters and his campaign teams 🙂

Lots of words, but it boils down to Trump being a wrong 'un and not being suitable for a role in office. I have seen or heard nothing to cause me to change my view of him.
True - but it’s so much more fun for us to discuss in depth why Trump is such an Orange-coloured baboon’s arse don’t you think? (People could just look at the pictures 🙂)


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I had no idea that Trump wears a diaper!
Are you suggesting this is fake news? 😜

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Zeberdi

Brighton born & bred
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
4,896


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,207
Goldstone
Lots of words, but it boils down to Trump being a wrong 'un and not being suitable for a role in office. I have seen or heard nothing to cause me to change my view of him.

You're a lost cause. If you won't change your mind when you hear about Hilary Clinton and Joe Biden's son, then you never will.
 




RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,499
Vacationland
However, it appears that in America the politics is dumbed down to a horribly over-simplistic “support your team” mentality, where it doesn’t matter how wrong or batshit crazy your guy is, they are your guy.
Not sure how this is an American problem, and not a more universal one. Certainly a Westminster-style system isn't free from the same phenomenon.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,207
Goldstone
Not sure how this is an American problem, and not a more universal one. Certainly a Westminster-style system isn't free from the same phenomenon.
I don't think the two are remotely comparable. No British PM has ever lied even close to as much as Trump, and where they have lied they've been called out and the media has generally accepted the truth. We don't have this 'fake news' nonsense over proven facts here. People who were labour supporters voted for Boris, hopeful he could improve things for them. I imagine most feel let down and will return to Labour, with many people who have been Tory voters joining them at the next election.

Sure you get some people who won't accept reality (my in-laws still support Boris, and believe it was all a witch hunt). But most don't, and the Tory party distanced themselves from Boris because he was a charlatan, whereas the Republicans are going with Trump again despite, well, everything.
 
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BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
17,132
I see that Call me Dave has just met up with Trump. One of the Orange Monster’s followers offered him out……

“Lord Cameron has been urging Republicans for some time to approve the aid package, particularly angering Republican congresswoman and Trump loyalist Marjorie Taylor-Greene, who told the foreign secretary to "kiss my ass".” BBC
David Cameron is a Lord??!!!

You f*** a country and they make you a lord?? 😂

f*** me.
 






lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
1,918
Sin City
Absolutely no proof if this, the republicans have being going after Biden’s son and have come up with nothing other than looking like idiots.

That‘s a lot of money coming into the coffers without providing any services…other than government access.
There’s plenty of proof, you’re just not interested in hearing it.
 


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