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[Albion] In full Bloom: Brighton well set for success with or without De Zerbi



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Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Are we about to see a second Poyet ending?

What sort of "gross misconduct" could RDZ have committed?

And which TV show will be he be appearing on in the near future?
Nationwide?
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Harry Wilson's tackle

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................................. and one of the worst ever Brighton managers.

I've never before or since seen a team trotting out to start a home game for Brighton scared shitless to go anywhere near the ball, and certainly showing every possible bit of body language that they didn't want to be there. Clough's 'work'.
Best thing he ever did for the Albion was buggering off.
Yes. He was the absolute ultimate billy big bollocks twat.

Eventually rocked up at Forest. He had talent, but he instead chose an easy life with a modest club and an infinite supply of morning water (scotch).
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes.
Brian Clough.
Clough's players were once good, then were crap, then.

Or was it that his drinking got out of hand?

Mmmmm........
 














Eeyore

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No chance. Bob Paisley
Quite possibly. Clough was nothing without Taylor. And folk forget how good he was at spending others cash then berating them. How many times did he break the transfer record ?

If he were in his pomp today and there was talk of him coming here I wouldn't be happy.

Oh, we've been there before...
 


Justice

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Suicide 3 at the back vs Luton; two down in 3 minutes. Repeated at Fulham soon after and lost 0-3. Away at Spurs, 1-1 deep into added time and every outfield player ahead of the ball in Spurs half; lost 2-1. Insane keeper rotation policy that he belated now seems to accept isn’t optimum.

Agree with you on your points re budget etc but we’ve left plenty of points on the pitch this season that have nothing to do with personnel but more to do with systems and tactics.
Spuds away really bugged me for some reason a point would of been a decent result, 11 players in the opposition half at 1-1 with minutes to go just reckless.
 


Littlemo

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Is this not a bit of contradiction -



How can it be clear when it could be something

When it’s basically an ultimatum? If you don’t do X then Y will happen.

Not that I’m suggesting that this is happening here with RDZ and the club, but something can be clear even when it’s a choice to be made rather than one fixed outcome.
 




Flounce

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Spuds away really bugged me for some reason a point would of been a decent result, 11 players in the opposition half at 1-1 with minutes to go just reckless.
The result bugged me, if Fati had put his chance away just before Spurs scored, as he should have done, we’d have been praising RDZ and the tactics. Shit happens when you play De Zerbi ball and hindsight rules when the result swings the way of the opposition.

A win would have been another massive result, as it happens the result was what 90% of football fans thought it would be pre kick off.
 


Thunder Bolt

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The result bugged me, if Fati had put his chance away just before Spurs scored, as he should have done, we’d have been praising RDZ and the tactics. Shit happens when you play De Zerbi ball and hindsight rules when the result swings the way of the opposition
So, it was the player, not the tactics?
 






Stumpy Tim

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Bottom half budget, we sold our two brilliant CM’ers, we lost a huge number of PL goals (Mac, Enciso, Solly, Mitoma). I know not playing Verbruggen is one of your many criticisms, I agree now that he should be no.1, but Steele got us into Europe and his distribution in a passing based team was key to our many successes.

Then that question again …. why did no one say on NSC say that Potter was better between the Chelsea 4-1 and Sept 23?
This argument that RDZ lost all these players has some truth, but also fails to remember that we did replace MacAllister with Pedro (who has scored a lot more than those you mentioned) and we added Adingra and Fati (his choice of player). I also feel strongly that Baleba should have played more even if he wasn't 100% ready. Other players were given the opportunity to play 20 minutes here and 30 minutes there. Without the minutes he isn't going to improve. And the choice to play Steele over Bart against Wolves in the cup and Roma away will be our biggest regret of the season IMO.

I want RDZ to stay and think he's great for Brighton. But he's not an elite manager yet and really shouldn't be believing the hype.
 


Justice

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The result bugged me, if Fati had put his chance away just before Spurs scored, as he should have done, we’d have been praising RDZ and the tactics. Shit happens when you play De Zerbi ball and hindsight rules when the result swings the way of the opposition.

A win would have been another massive result, as it happens the result was what 90% of football fans thought it would be pre kick off.
You can’t rely on players taking their chance as a la Welbeck against Brentford. You can plan for a break away from the opposition though.
 








Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
This argument that RDZ lost all these players has some truth, but also fails to remember that we did replace MacAllister with Pedro (who has scored a lot more than those you mentioned) and we added Adingra and Fati (his choice of player). I also feel strongly that Baleba should have played more even if he wasn't 100% ready. Other players were given the opportunity to play 20 minutes here and 30 minutes there. Without the minutes he isn't going to improve. And the choice to play Steele over Bart against Wolves in the cup and Roma away will be our biggest regret of the season IMO.

I want RDZ to stay and think he's great for Brighton. But he's not an elite manager yet and really shouldn't be believing the hype.
We lost to Wolves because we didn’t score a goal not because Steel conceded a goal. Had Bart saved that, it would still be 0-0.
 




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