Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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Fair enough. I doubt that bellend meant it like that though.
[Politics] Donald Trump 2024
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beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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you'd agree that saying there could be a "bloodbath" in US job opportunities with Chinese imports via Mexico*, vs a bloodbath following an election are very different things?
dozens of US headlines say the later, which when shown in context will be used as evidence there is campaign against him. probably the plan and everyone has played along.
*the premise is bollocks anyway, companies have been importing cars to US for years via Mexico. USian's aren't going to buy Chinese cars unless they are somehow better than others on offer, not because they are bit cheaper from being made in Mexico.
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Most of the examples there are of literal blood being spilled and people dying. All of the examples that aren't about that, explicitly state what they are about. So if Trump had said 'a trade bloodbath', we'd know he was talking about trade. If he just says bloodbath, then he's talking about people dying.
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He isn’t ‘manipulating’ detractors I don’t think - pissing them off, polarising debate and trying to gaslight them maybe but ‘manipulation’ implies a position of weakness and gullibility from the point of the ‘victim’ - ( maybe a few NSC members are being ‘manipulated’ but most of us see right through him
). Neither the Dems nor the Biden administration are blind to the threat Trump poses to democracy in the US and the DoJ are not taken in by his rhetoric and verbal attacks on those trying to bring him to justice.What I would concede to is that Trump and his allies are winning the social media war - what once was a bipartisan project to stop the peddling of lies/fake news and disinformation on social media has been very effectively eviscerated by Trump and his conservative supporters in the GOP and twisted into a counteroffensive that accuses the Democratic government of stifling free speech and censorship of Republican conservatives. In the face of court battles and wars in Congress, controlling the content of social media by those interested in limiting the spread of disinformation has effectively fallen by the wayside.
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That is all correct but he can only pardon his federal crimes, not state or Civil.
His pressuring Georgia to find 12k votes the Fani Willis trial is state and he can't stop it, as his NY fraud trial etc.
Insurrection, classified documents are federal and he'll pardon himself.
cjd
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My thanks to several posters who are keeping one poster busy. ( As if anything he said would make the slightest difference apart from that poster enjoying his soap box fame )
Anyone facing you off over the meaning of words in context is on a hiding to nothing.
And one person on a hiding to nothing, presently, declined to engage with me recently when I pointed out something or another. Perhaps he had important things to do. Hair has to be washed, after all.
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Apparently Joseph Chamberlain (possibly) rather than some ancient Chinese philosopher, as is widely believed. I didn't know that until I googled itWe live in interesting times
(Who said that?
Me. I just said that.)
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Ignore them - there’s a few idiots raising their ugly heads on this thread with the sole purpose of trolling - not worth engaging with them.Anyone facing you off over the meaning of words in context is on a hiding to nothing.
And one person on a hiding to nothing, presently, declined to engage with me recently when I pointed out something or another. Perhaps he had important things to do. Hair has to be washed, after all.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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Clever bit of speech writing by whoever writes his speeches. Enrage the opponents while giving his supporters solid ground to take the moral high ground (in their own opinions of course).
This is the complex and devisive propaganda that may win him the election.
This is the complex and devisive propaganda that may win him the election.
The person I have in mind has interesting take on things much of the time (even if I disagree with him much of the time) so I won't bin him off yet.
I think that some people get a bit too cocky with their perception of their insights. Couple this with lazy brief posts, often badly punctuated, and add in an unwillingness to acknowledge when their lazy posts have, on occasion, been exposed as crunk....it does get a bit irritating. An apology will never be forthcoming, sadly. That's a sign of weakness, of course.
I'm not triggered yet enough to do anything more than sigh. Most* posters are well intentioned. And some of us don't have the time for the Spanish Inquisition.
*Apart from those on my ignore list, of course
- Nov 11, 2009
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I never knew I was that close to your ignore list.The person I have in mind has interesting take on things much of the time (even if I disagree with him much of the time) so I won't bin him off yet.
I think that some people get a bit too cocky with their perception of their insights. Couple this with lazy brief posts, often badly punctuated, and add in an unwillingness to acknowledge when their lazy posts have, on occasion, been exposed as crunk....it does get a bit irritating. An apology will never be forthcoming, sadly. That's a sign of weakness, of course.
I'm not triggered yet enough to do anything more than sigh. Most* posters are well intentioned. And some of us don't have the time for the Spanish Inquisition.
*Apart from those on my ignore list, of course
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When it comes to H’s ignore list, the Law of the Seven Degrees of Separation apply - we all know someone who knows someone who knows someone …
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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Not when he's saying it, no. His brain isn't wired to make that distinction.
Crawley Dingo
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- Mar 31, 2022
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The anti-establishment Tucker Carlson is a quisling? I think you should look that word up. Nope it appears you have quite a few problems here, we are done here.
Crawley Dingo
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Yes I know its short, the full clip shows he is talking about the US Car industry.Short clip.
Donald Trump warns of a 'bloodbath' in US if he isn't elected as president again
Donald Trump warns of a 'bloodbath' in US if he isn't elected as president again Source: APcdn.jwplayer.com
The above was Friday
And this today.
If you were 'done' on Friday why are you here again today? And are you 'finally' done now??
Crawley Dingo
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Dog whistle is a conspiracy theory. Anything that insinuates secret signalling due to a malevolent agenda fits the definition.
rogersix
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can i ask you what you get out of all of this, i'm assuming you're english and live in england, is that correct?