Sorry, but that is absolute rhubarb.Don't forget folks, a vote is for life, not just for Christmas
Ok well I did say most people on NSC would not probably understand the nuances of the issues but please don’t be so presumptuous as to tell me what I believe. I am absolutely NOT saying all people with black skin are the same because of the blackness of their skin - exactly the opposite.
If someone 'emerged' on the scene today, looking like that, I suspect they would be pilloried.
seem to take criticism of a point as direct at you personally, when its about the subject. the use of "Black" as expressed by the article is lumping many diverse cultures together as one, and not something universally accepted. many would say black is a description of what someone looks like not a definition of who they are...
I would say "she should be shot" (or similar) could be promotion of violence...but yes, set up a due diligence committee of Tory MPs to discuss that, Mr Gove.
, and Hunt's statement to the committee that he 'wouldn't want Hester cancelled'... what does that even mean, Hunt??
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To me they are an antichrist version of a gift that keeps on giving. The old school tory grandees of the 80s would be shocked and appalled at the value-free opportunism that exemplifies the tory party today. Chancers in parliament, cheered on by demented blue rinsers living in white enclaves, and vile bigoted gammon who blame all their own shortcomings and failures on illegal transgender Islamic asylum seekers. Burn them all. BURN them. Burn them.I would say "she should be shot" (or similar) could be promotion of violence...but yes, set up a due diligence committee of Tory MPs to discuss that, Mr Gove.
As has been said before, if the donation had been only 500 squids it would already have been returned.
No doubt Gove's due diligence will somehow include taking account of Hester's sincere remorse
I find it hard to maintain the energy to argue cogently against the Tory party (I know, that's what they're counting on)...they are so obviously rotten at the top, and probably a long way down the ladder. They continue to cause immense damage to the fabric of this country and society. I despair...bring on the election.
Keep going, Harry
It’s okay, I’ve just done it. He’s racist. Not to be made friends with.
Absolutely that. A number of the Tory grandees have indeed spoken out against the current regime...but they receive (or seek, perhaps understandably?) little air time.To me they are an antichrist version of a gift that keeps on giving. The old school tory grandees of the 80s would be shocked and appalled at the value-free opportunism that exemplifies the tory party today. Chancers in parliament, cheered on by demented blue rinsers living in white enclaves, and vile bigoted gammon who blame all their own shortcomings and failures on illegal transgender Islamic asylum seekers. Burn them all. BURN them. Burn them.
yes, i misspoke on that "agree" comment.
So you know what Diane Abbott was intending to say at PMQs yesterday had the Speaker not denied her the opportunity to speak. C'mon then....spill.
Let’s unpack that Michael Gove because it sounds as if you have just labelled the Tory Party as an ’extremist’ organisation…
The age of satire is dead. I fear that some of these goons watched Chris Morris (The Day Today, in particular) and thought 'I'm having some of that'.
I have to be honest here, I don’t much like Dianne Abbot, I never have but she did have the whip removed last August for saying that Jews, Irish and travellers haven’t suffered racism ‘all their lives’. She is no longer a Labour MP (but is still a supporting member ) so it is much harder to have a voice during PQT - Independent MPs are at the bottom of the pecking order when it comes to the Speaker prioritising who to invite to make oral questions - the Opposition (Labour) will get the lion-share of time to respond. Afterwards apparently Starmer went up to Abbot and asked what he could do to help her and she said ‘restore the whip’.
I have read an explanation of people who spoke yesterday. Seemingly, Ed Davey is allowed to speak at 1 in 6 PMQs and this week was his turn. There is also the SNP etc so there wasn't enough time, and, as you said, Dianne Abbott, is an Independent. It's run on party lines, not subject matter.
AbsolutelyJust to clarify in case your post is misinterpreted- it would be offensive to call any one Afro-Caribbean unless they had an Afro-Carribean heritage/identity. Ie they are of African heritage but come from the Caribbean. I don’t know many A-Cs but do know a few and they say the majority of black people in the Caribbean don’t consider themselves black.
’Black’ is perfectly fine to call any black person from Africa or with African descent though when referring to them in conversation if it is relevant ie the fact they are black is pertinent to the discussion or point one wants to make.
It is not racist unless it is used in a way as to intend to cause harm ( psychological or physical) or it would be reasonably be likely to do so.
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My family on one side is black ( not the side of the family that’s Jewish, that would be too much) - not only do they strongly self-identify as ‘Black’ ( even though they are mixed race ) but would be offended if people circumvented mentioning their colour as if it were the elephant in the room. (We talk about a lot of ‘Black’ and ‘Jewish’ in our family
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I don't disagree with anything you said here. Sounds like a great family who speak openly about sometimes difficult and pertinent topics, much love to all of you. 
