[Politics] George Galloway MP

London Irish said:

Oh sorry was that too many facts for you? The United Nations are indeed our only hope. It amazes me people like you brazenly post cheering on genocide, the open slaughter of women and kids that is all being filmed and recorded — but of course this is why fascism happened in so many countries, take a bow

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London Irish said:

between 30 to 40 thousand civilians, the majority of which are either children or women.

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Deportivo Seagull said:

Galloway is a ****. Anyone who mixes with the likes of Griffin, Farage and openly supports Putin is a ****. He’s in it for himself, neither the Palestinians nor the people of Rochdale will benefit.

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Billy the Fish said:

This always gets mentioned along with the death count. Does anyone know why? What are all the blokes in Gaza up to?

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A1X said:

I’d find this kind of conclusion much more understandable had the Labour candidate lost so heavily while being backed by the Labour Party

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Wardy's twin said:

And let people like Galloway take over? There is a lot wrong with both Labour and more wrong with the Tories but letting in extremist of either end of the spectrum is plain disastrous.

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de la zouch said:

There’s thousands of verified clips like this
Are the films you refer to the comedy Pallywood plastic baby clips that the like or Owen Jones retweets then takes down
The Irish always on the right side of history

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portlock seagull said:

I’m not. Really I’m not. Again, you’re even mis using even that cut and paste definition because you obviously haven’t read it. Genocide, if it were happening, would be Israeli’s killing every man women child and baby that’s in Gaza. That’s genocide. And as said, that’s clearly not happening and the numbers of dead would be off the scale.

You’re confused. And angry. I get it. But Gaza maybe many things but it’s not Genocide. Nor apartheid. If you knew anything about historical occurrences of either, you’d know this. Back to school, don’t they teach you young ‘une anything these days except how to get angry?

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POP_TONEZ said:

Don’t condescend me, again you are wrong. Genocide absolutely doesn’t mean killing everyone, are you mental? That would mean no genocide has ever taken place in history… did the nazis kill every Jew… no….

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de la zouch said:

There’s thousands of verified clips like this
Are the films you refer to the comedy Pallywood plastic baby clips that the like or Owen Jones retweets then takes down
The Irish always on the right side of history

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Wardy's twin said:

Where were all the marches against Syria and Russia , why was there not widespread condemnation of Russia and the Syrian leadership whilst they murdered hundreds of thousands and displaced millions? Why doesn't Egypt take in Palestinians in the same way Turkey took in Syrians? Its all down to politics and scoring one against Israel as they are seen as America's stooge or I guess it could of course be plain old antisemitism.

Don't get me wrong, Israel has gone OTT in my eyes because the outcome was very predictable when fighting a war in a densely populated area but if I were Jewish I might thing very differently.

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Wardy's twin said:

How do you separate civilians from an embedded irregular military force that uses them as cover?

If Hamas is worried about civilian casualties it could surrender now and the fighting would stop.

Regards humane bombing - when did that ever happen ? WW2 , don't think so , Korea, Vietnam nope either. I can't think of many modern conflicts where this has happened except ironically the 1956, 1966 and 1973 wars which Israel fought Arab armies.

The nature of irregular armies/guerrillas/freedom fighters/terrorist is to hide in plain sight using civilians as cover so its not surprising that given the level of integration that the civilian population end up being killed.

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Wardy's twin said:

Let me state that I had a good debate with @Zeberdi about why Israel should not go into Gaza (even though they had justification) because the mayhem that followed would all be blamed on Israel.

But let me restate my question, how do you separate civilians who are tightly integrated with Hamas fighters, the answer is you can't so you either take risks with your own soldiers or you take risks with enemy civilians who may well be active supporters of the fighters. its pretty clear what any government would do in this situation.

It would not surprise me that there has been rape or executions there is a war going on and in the IDF there are going to be a number of people (men & women) who will take advantage , there will also be some who will know people killed on 7th and will have there own perspective on justice. I don't think its right but its not peculiar to this conflict.

70 years of self imposed separation is possibly nearer the mark. Those Arabs that accepted the status quo in 1948 are integrated into the Israeli state.

I am not leaping to the IDFs defence but what I do object to is a biased narrative using emotive words like genocide and apartheid when its a clear statement from both Hamas and Iran that they want to wipe out Israel and the Jews, now that would be genocide IMO.

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Billy the Fish said:

This always gets mentioned along with the death count. Does anyone know why? What are all the blokes in Gaza up to?

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POP_TONEZ said:

All of your bastards refusing to condemn mass slaughter, genocide and apartheid can go to f***. Ban me don’t care you’re all knobs im going out in a hour you’re all at home miserable knobs

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POP_TONEZ said:

All of your bastards refusing to condemn mass slaughter, genocide and apartheid can go to f***. Ban me don’t care you’re all knobs im going out in a hour you’re all at home miserable knobs

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clapham_gull said:

Nice.

It's a thread about George Galloway. What I've never understood about single issue politics (and on the issue I think we have a lot of common ground without the inflammatory language) is that the lack of distrust about about anyone who aligns with the single issue.

Can you honestly say you can put aside everything else gorgeous George thinks on a number of issues because of his support for this ?

Also another honest question.

Because of your solidarity on this issue, are you now sympathetic to his other views, on transgender issues for example.

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