[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

beorhthelm said:

you go through a proper process with established international agreement. you dont just dip into their accounts without a legally sound basis.
Nazi gold was stolen wasn't it? so it gets returned to the orginal owner. yes, it would be unethical and illegal* to seize the crazed lunatic's money, you want some law for perpetrators to have their money seized in certain conditions. otherwise you end up with all sorts of people having assets seized and stolen by the state beacuse they did unrelated bad things. rule of law is a foundation of the western liberal democracies, not summary justice.

* there is law on proceeds of crime that might apply, aimed at confiscating money from criminal activity.

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Eric the meek said:

'Scenes the Kremlin didn't want to see'

Russia-Ukraine latest: Putin signs conscription decree; Russia 'will certainly gain more land', Musk warns

Vladimir Putin has signed a decree setting out the routine spring conscription campaign. Meanwhile, Elon Musk has said Russia "will certainly gain more land" and it was "a tragic waste of life for Ukraine to attack a larger army" in a statement on X.

news.sky.com

I noticed the following in the article:

In a call with reporters on Friday morning, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov was asked about Alexei Navalny.
"The Kremlin doesn't have anything to say to Navalny's family on the day of his funeral," he says.
He declines to give any assessment of Navalny as a political figure.
Peskov also reiterates that any unsanctioned gatherings violate the law.
"Accordingly, those who participate in them will be held accountable," he says.

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raymondo said:

They'll need to hold hundreds if not thousands then.

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brighton_dave said:

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hampshirebrightonboy said:

No think we should seize the money and let them take us to court. See how that goes.

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Eric the meek said:

'We are not afraid' - chants by the crowd.

Edit: It's reported that they are also chanting 'No to war', 'We will not forget', and 'Murderers'.

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fly high said:

Wow, just wow. Brave people, looks like they are being filmed by cowards.

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beorhthelm said:

would be embarrassing if they then won in court. then have to pay back.

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raymondo said:

Incredible really...these very brave people are the tip of an iceberg hopefully

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beorhthelm said:

would be embarrassing if they then won in court. then have to pay back.

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Eric the meek said:

Let's hope so. Here is the Navalny team Youtube channel.

6.38m subscribers, 255,000 watching it live. Look at the volume of the messages incoming.

(I've no idea if it is accessible inside Russia, nor what proportion Russians make towards those numbers).



(Google it first and watch it on YT to see the numbers).

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brighton_dave said:

To be very blunt, if they won in court, and we were in a place where the t*unts had been forced out of Ukraine, I'd take that. If that meant my tax rate goes up, so be it.
Too many people lose sight that people are more important than money.
I'd pay with a smile on my face knowing what I'm paying back stopped the torture in Ukraine.

If it weren't for my wife and kids I'd be out there too, that is for certain. All we can do is support them however we can.

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Nobby Cybergoat said:

Even this large amount of money is symbolic in the scheme of the amount needed to wage a war on this scale. It won't tip the balance.

I as a UK tax payer would be furious if my tax money had to be paid to Russia because they won in a UK court because my government hadn't carried out due dilligence.

We need to get Ukraine the money, but we need to make sure we're going through the correct legal challenge. As this will presumably take time, we can up the amount of armaments we transfer and up our domestic manufacture to help back filling.

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Nobby Cybergoat said:

Even this large amount of money is symbolic in the scheme of the amount needed to wage a war on this scale. It won't tip the balance.

I as a UK tax payer would be furious if my tax money had to be paid to Russia because they won in a UK court because my government hadn't carried out due dilligence.

We need to get Ukraine the money, but we need to make sure we're going through the correct legal challenge. As this will presumably take time, we can up the amount of armaments we transfer and up our domestic manufacture to help back fill

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brighton_dave said:

Gives hope..

Ukraine is pushing Russia back in one absolutely crucial area

The tide may just be starting to turn

www.telegraph.co.uk

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Thunder Bolt said:

Let's admire the ordinary Russians brave enough to turn out for Navalny's funeral. I hope they all stay safe.

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