It was umpire's call probably. If he'd given a yellow I'm not sure VAR would have overturned it.
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[Albion] Was it a red?
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Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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it's a red by the letter of the law. No complaints about thatPlant, hit…..it was dangerous to do what Gilmour did and therefore it’s a red. Thats all there is to it
"Plant" implies a level of force that could have broken a player's leg.
That didn't happen.
If you watch the challenge, Billy pulls his leg back as soon as he feels contact.
Billy mitigates against any danger from the impact, because he didn't "plant" his studs in the opponents leg.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
plus Maguire's head weighs more than Gilmour
Lenny Rider
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- Sep 15, 2010
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Even in the cold light of day I’m with you Hugo.
But looking at the voting stats it’s clearly a game of opinions.
Apologies if fixtures,
Can we appeal?
Does he miss Rome?
Whilst he wasn’t having his best of days he’s clearly one of most improved players this season, not sure Potter would have got the same tune out of him?, and I believe he’s pivotal to our midfield engine room.
Da Man Clay
T'Blades
- Dec 16, 2004
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Be a waste of an appeal. It’s a red. Would get an extra game for a frivolous appeal.Even in the cold light of day I’m with you Hugo.
But looking at the voting stats it’s clearly a game of opinions.
Apologies if fixtures,
Can we appeal?
Does he miss Rome?
Whilst he wasn’t having his best of days he’s clearly one of most improved players this season, not sure Potter would have got the same tune out of him?, and I believe he’s pivotal to our midfield engine room.
No doesn’t miss Rome.
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Yes, as it was a straight red.
And, no he doesn't miss Rome, as the suspension is from domestic competition.
Kalimantan Gull
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not for me guvnor
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
That isn't a given, they'd more likely just say no.
The word plant does not imply a level of force: it implies the placing of something in a specific position or location:
Plant: to place something or yourself in a particular place or position.
Besides, we both agree it was a red according to the law of the game ….which is what me, you and the ref should be following.
Swimboy64
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- Oct 19, 2022
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Improved,I agree. He has improved a lot but when watching him I ask myself what does he actually do and have I ever seen him make much happen. He keeps things pretty safe for himself,short pass back from where he’s received it,doesn’t seem to have many assists or goals in relation to amount of appearances and will only turn with the ball if he is in acres. Saying that he can pass so hope the other stuff comesEven in the cold light of day I’m with you Hugo.
But looking at the voting stats it’s clearly a game of opinions.
Apologies if fixtures,
Can we appeal?
Does he miss Rome?
Whilst he wasn’t having his best of days he’s clearly one of most improved players this season, not sure Potter would have got the same tune out of him?, and I believe he’s pivotal to our midfield engine room.
Javeaseagull
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- Feb 22, 2014
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I’m with Dunk on this, it could be a red or a yellow, ref’s decision and he was in a good position. Just hope that if he had seen Maguires tackle he would have given him a red as well. Very little difference to me.
highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
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To be fair, I voted red, mainly because I don't want us to be that type of fan base that can never see anything wrong with our own players. In reality, and seeing it properly, which I couldn't from the north stand when it happened*, I would say it could have gone either way, red or yellow, and would not have been overturned by VAR. So: 'soft, but c'est la vie'.Even in the cold light of day I’m with you Hugo.
But looking at the voting stats it’s clearly a game of opinions.
Apologies if fixtures,
Can we appeal?
Does he miss Rome?
Whilst he wasn’t having his best of days he’s clearly one of most improved players this season, not sure Potter would have got the same tune out of him?, and I believe he’s pivotal to our midfield engine room.
*which is exactly why those sanctimonious claims that 'you can't have an opinion if you weren't at the game' are such bollocks
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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"Plant into" was the term used.
For billy to plant his studs into the opponents leg, far more force would have been required.
Your implication was unfair.
Affy
Silent Assassin
I don’t think it’s a red. No intention or malice just late. They always look worse when slowed down and freeze framed. It’s one of those “orange” fouls which VAR likely would have agreed with whatever was given on field. Shame to miss 3 games on the back of it.
Flounce
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- Nov 15, 2006
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Quite but where the refs are shit is that if it’s a big club player it’s not a red, small club, then nailed on red. Frustrating but just the way it is and always will be. Most refs are bottlers with decisions against big clubs, especially when they are at home imo
Having just seen the MotD replay its a red, I didn't think so when I first saw it yesterday, but a different angle.
I got the impression from BBC editors they wouldn't have shown the game at all if they hadn't been contractually obliged. 2 minute lowlights and that was it. Our goal aside.
Neville's Breakfast
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I’ve only watched the 3 minute highlights on Sky but I don’t see a foul let alone a red card. Yes, there is contact with one leg but it doesn’t amount to much. The Everton player then exaggerates by rolling around as though his other leg has been amputated. I can see why the ref was conned though so no blame on him.
Frankie
Put him in the curry
Slightly unfortunate to get a red another ref may have given a yellow,as for VAR intervening if he had produced a yellow then you're in the world of the complete unknown,feel a bit sorry for Billy considering how lucky Tarkovski was to escape 2 yellows.
Side point, but did the person who wrote this rule get paid by the word? Why on earth do they need to complicate it by referencing "front, side or behind"?
As opposed to what? From below, or above?!
And why "with one or both legs"? As opposed to what? No legs?
Hastings gull
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- Nov 23, 2013
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