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But I thought that the whole idea was for immigrants to integrate themselves with the local culture
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But I thought that the whole idea was for immigrants to integrate themselves with the local culture
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That assumes enough knowledge to know the difference - it was much harder to produce and disseminate false information on a global scale prior to the internet. It also assumes that the ‘truth’ can even be recognised amongst all the noise and is not buried under a digital mountain of blah blah blah as to make it all but invisible - It also assumes there is no demographic bias in content;
The voice of women on the internet for example, gives rise to high levels of comment blocking, especially in journalism - eg articles about feminism and rape attract blocked comments as a result of abuse or misogyny which intimidates women into silence. The whole Gaza debate and any criticism against Israel for example is an issue where debate (at least in the early days ) was being frozen because the debaters or site hosts were being silenced by cyberbullying or, here’s another word, doxxing. Social media platforms are kangaroo courts where the mob’s POV is judge and jury - in order for wise stuff to be found on the internet, it must be posted in the first place - wise people are in the minority and increasingly learning to avoid social media for the sake of their mental health - that means conceding ground to the not so wise.
The search algorithms continually at work to guide us towards ‘relevant material’ on the internet, reinforces beliefs in a such a way that people don’t even realise the internet has become an echo chamber of their own making.
The internet is a fantastic source of information but the process of verification, cross-referencing and fact-checking is getting increasingly burdensome.
For everyone else, there’s NSC
NSC has a very narrow demographic.At least it has, judging by the information the bulk of vocal posters have revealed about themselves. Muslim views, feminist views, Jewish views, LBQGT and Black/Brown views are barely represented. That’s not a criticism, it is a football forum for a Club in a comparatively white, affluent area of the Country but sometimes I think NSC members are under the impression that the POVs expressed on NSC are much broader and more unbiased than they actually are.
That assumes enough knowledge to know the difference - it was much harder to produce and disseminate false information on a global scale prior to the internet. It also assumes that the ‘truth’ can even be recognised amongst all the noise and is not buried under a digital mountain of blah blah blah as to make it all but invisible - It also assumes there is no demographic bias in content;
The voice of women on the internet for example, gives rise to high levels of comment blocking, especially in journalism - eg articles about feminism and rape attract blocked comments as a result of abuse or misogyny which intimidates women into silence. The whole Gaza debate and any criticism against Israel for example is an issue where debate (at least in the early days ) was being frozen because the debaters or site hosts were being silenced by cyberbullying or, here’s another word, doxxing. Social media platforms are kangaroo courts where the mob’s POV is judge and jury - in order for wise stuff to be found on the internet, it must be posted in the first place - wise people are in the minority and increasingly learning to avoid social media for the sake of their mental health - that means conceding ground to the not so wise.
The search algorithms continually at work to guide us towards ‘relevant material’ on the internet, reinforces beliefs in a such a way that people don’t even realise the internet has become an echo chamber of their own making.
The internet is a fantastic source of information but the process of verification, cross-referencing and fact-checking is getting increasingly burdensome.
At least it has, judging by the information the bulk of vocal posters have revealed about themselves. Muslim views, feminist views, Jewish views, LBQGT and Black/Brown views are barely represented. That’s not a criticism, it is a football forum for a Club in a comparatively white, affluent area of the Country but sometimes I think NSC members are under the impression that the POVs expressed on NSC are much broader and more unbiased than they actually are.
I tend to use the internet mainly for wanking and looking at outdoor gear.
That assumes enough knowledge to know the difference - it was much harder to produce and disseminate false information on a global scale prior to the internet. It also assumes that the ‘truth’ can even be recognised amongst all the noise and is not buried under a digital mountain of blah blah blah as to make it all but invisible - It also assumes there is no demographic bias in content;
The voice of women on the internet for example, gives rise to high levels of comment blocking, especially in journalism - eg articles about feminism and rape attract blocked comments as a result of abuse or misogyny which intimidates women into silence. The whole Gaza debate and any criticism against Israel for example is an issue where debate (at least in the early days ) was being frozen because the debaters or site hosts were being silenced by cyberbullying or, here’s another word, doxxing. Social media platforms are kangaroo courts where the mob’s POV is judge and jury - in order for wise stuff to be found on the internet, it must be posted in the first place - wise people are in the minority and increasingly learning to avoid social media for the sake of their mental health - that means conceding ground to the not so wise.
The search algorithms continually at work to guide us towards ‘relevant material’ on the internet, reinforces beliefs in a such a way that people don’t even realise the internet has become an echo chamber of their own making.
The internet is a fantastic source of information but the process of verification, cross-referencing and fact-checking is getting increasingly burdensome.
At least it has, judging by the information the bulk of vocal posters have revealed about themselves. Muslim views, feminist views, Jewish views, LBQGT and Black/Brown views are barely represented. That’s not a criticism, it is a football forum for a Club in a comparatively white, affluent area of the Country but sometimes I think NSC members are under the impression that the POVs expressed on NSC are much broader and more unbiased than they actually are.
How would you recognise a black / brown view, a Jewish view?, LBGQT view? Feminist view?
What makes their views recognisable? As in, what differentiates their views from the other demographics on here?
How do I spot a Jewish view, for example?
*I’m being a swine. I know what you mean.
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That does look very interesting. Timely too, We are seeing an increase in youth activity and street children on our patrols.
Thank you, I shall read that in full after I’ve had some sleep.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
not simultaneously Shirley..?
Have you seen the new HOKA Anacapa #2’s?
Javeaseagull
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- Feb 22, 2014
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I have a jaundiced view of the term Ex-pat ever since moving to Spain. I have found too many of my fellow countrymen have views I don’t agree with and at first ignored them. Then I started arguing with them about their views on immigration by saying things like “but you’re an immigrant” but wasn’t getting anywhere. Now when I hear the term ex-pat I say “Well I’m not. I’m an economic migrant.” Some of them look thoughtful, none have ever argued back and you never know, I may have made some think differently. I doubt it somehow but the fight goes on.
cunning fergus
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- Jan 18, 2009
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It is not just ‘rightwing bollocks’ - it is just as much a tool of the left as it is the right - in the specific context of my post, it has been described as the new McCarthyism - where free speech and Liberty is curtailed all too easily - where support is removed for public figures because of their views - journalists being sacked for supposedly anti-Semitic cartoons, Palestinian speakers banned or shamed for protesting against the war in Gaza - cancel culture is when the court of public opinion ( usually the majority) demands not so much the silencing of opinions but the people that hold them. ‘Cancel culture’ is the co-conspirator of the echo chamber.
‘McCarthyite backlash’: response to criticism of Israel alarms rights groups | Freedom of speech | The Guardian
Civil rights groups say critics of the Israeli assault on Gaza have lost jobs and students who support Palestine have been blacklistedamp.theguardian.com
If you want a long read, this explains it in full.
Cancel Culture
In Cancel Culture, Alan Dershowitz—New York Times bestselling author and one of America’s most respected legal scholars—makes an argument for free speech, due process, and restraint against the often overeager impulse to completely cancel individuals and institutions at the ever-changing whims...books.google.co.uk
However, cancel culture was just one aspect of my post - the general point being that social media makes it very hard for potential voters to find unbiased information upon which they can formulate independent POVs for all the reasons I stated.
What type of person(s) is in the echo chamber on how the term “mother” and “woman” is being dealt with these days in the U.K. by medical people, no less?
Brighton NHS Trust introduces new trans-friendly terms
Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals Trust said it won't exclude "the language of motherhood".
www.bbc.co.uk
GMC removes all references to ‘mother’ from maternity document
General Medical Council also updates its internal policy on menopause to remove mentions of women
www.telegraph.co.uk
Is this another political trend that has taken hold of certain types here and in the US of course…….
Biden Admin Replaces 'Mothers' With 'Birthing People' in Maternal
"Why does Biden want to cancel mothers?" one critic of Biden's budget said of the linguistic change.
www.newsweek.com
https://www.facebook.com/SenatorLan...-people-in-his-budget-reques/172490168222192/
I think most people go about their lives just wanting to be happy and work hard for some of the nice stuff in life without giving a thought to whether the term mother is offensive. Cancelling the term “mother” (and woman) is pretty sinister and completely unnecessary. Whoever and or whatever is behind this kind of shit needs a good kicking by their mother first and the rest us after.
But we will probably have to endure this shithousery because here in the U.K. we have a dysfunctional political class that lap this shit up by the gallon. At least in some countries they will get a choice (although the comments are enlightening on democracy in Ireland)
sydney
tinky ****in winky
yes but not in that way , more of a Rockport type of hiker myself......with socks and a smart watch.
Rockports are very nice.
I love HOKA. Got three pairs of Anacapa 2’s.
I even wear a black pair for work.
Most comfortable walking boots I’ve owned so far.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
What type of person(s) is in the echo chamber on how the term “mother” and “woman” is being dealt with these days in the U.K. by medical people, no less?
Brighton NHS Trust introduces new trans-friendly terms
Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals Trust said it won't exclude "the language of motherhood".www.bbc.co.uk
GMC removes all references to ‘mother’ from maternity document
General Medical Council also updates its internal policy on menopause to remove mentions of women
Is this another political trend that has taken hold of certain types here and in the US of course…….
Biden Admin Replaces 'Mothers' With 'Birthing People' in Maternal
"Why does Biden want to cancel mothers?" one critic of Biden's budget said of the linguistic change.
https://www.facebook.com/SenatorLan...-people-in-his-budget-reques/172490168222192/
I think most people go about their lives just wanting to be happy and work hard for some of the nice stuff in life without giving a thought to whether the term mother is offensive. Cancelling the term “mother” (and woman) is pretty sinister and completely unnecessary. Whoever and or whatever is behind this kind of shit needs a good kicking by their mother first and the rest us after.
But we will probably have to endure this shithousery because here in the U.K. we have a dysfunctional political class that lap this shit up by the gallon. At least in some countries they will get a choice (although the comments are enlightening on democracy in Ireland)
i'll bite .....they know we are too smart to be poisoned out of existence , they tried that once and now Bill f***ing Gates has "gone viral" ffs admitting that they made "lots of mistakes" ffs
so the next step is to turn white people off breeding by finding the opposite sex no more attractive that a sunday morning trip to the cemetery , they will shove net zero down the necks of Europe , America , the west in general while birth rates in Africa and parts of the middle east are off the charts .....it's a sick joke but unfortunately anyone under the age of 35 is completely unaware and thinks its normal .....you won't get me on a protracted discussion this evening , it's been a big week and i'm f***ed....goodnight.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
i own a couple of pairs of ONAIR a pair of MERRELLS , SKECHERS AND NUMEROUS ADIDAS...sorry shouting
sydney
tinky ****in winky
about 5 frying pans and an 8 slice toaster.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
as in you emigrated and you took some money with you...??I have a jaundiced view of the term Ex-pat ever since moving to Spain. I have found too many of my fellow countrymen have views I don’t agree with and at first ignored them. Then I started arguing with them about their views on immigration by saying things like “but you’re an immigrant” but wasn’t getting anywhere. Now when I hear the term ex-pat I say “Well I’m not. I’m an economic migrant.” Some of them look thoughtful, none have ever argued back and you never know, I may have made some think differently. I doubt it somehow but the fight goes on.
you didn't turn up in a dinghy with nothing but a SOTA mobile phone.
Shropshire Seagull
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Okay, lets get this thread back on track.
Anyone know where the "freezer-truck gang" are now?
1. Still in hospital?
2. Being accommodated in a UK hotel somewhere?
3. On the boat back / returned to France?
4. Awaiting a boarding pass for a flight to Rwanda?
5. None of the above ....
No need for a poll ....
Anyone know where the "freezer-truck gang" are now?
1. Still in hospital?
2. Being accommodated in a UK hotel somewhere?
3. On the boat back / returned to France?
4. Awaiting a boarding pass for a flight to Rwanda?
5. None of the above ....
No need for a poll ....
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The latest news appears to say they all still in hospital, one is critical.
Man appears in court accused of trafficking Vietnamese migrants across the Channel
A handyman accused of trafficking seven Vietnamese migrants across the Channel in a freezer truck has appeared in court.
www.theargus.co.uk
Javeaseagull
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- Feb 22, 2014
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No I didn’t turn up in a dinghy but if I tried to do the same now that I did then I would be an illegal economic migrant, something to be despised apparently. I am the same person, this is the same country but the law has changed. Other people are denied the opportunity to do what I did and guess what. Net migration has dropped off a cliff and our wonderful leaders can’t seem to work out why the population has increased. Lets blame the boat people, shall we? It must be someones fault.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
round and round in circles aren't we ......how the feck do VIETNAMESE "migrants" end up in that situation , Vietnam is booming currently , the only people leaving are organised crime gang members....oh , hold on.