Which club have Brighton poached 11 players, coaches, and admin staff from?
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[Albion] Sam Jewell
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Thunder Bolt
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We got Paul Barber from the FA, and he was made Vice Chairman when Liverpool came calling. He knows when he's onto a good thing.
Hold them to their contract. And if their performance drops off as a result, dock their salary and keep docking it until they perform again to the level that was expected of them when they were contacted in the first place. Sometimes, we're just too soft for our own good.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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Barber was at Vancouver Whitecaps before he joined us. He worked for the FA as commercial director before he went to Spurs earlier in his career.
Dan Ashworth came to us from his role as director of elite development at the FA.
Javeaseagull
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I think that was Deputy chairman, a subtle difference that has always escaped me tbh!
But that's exactly what we are doing - Jewell is not starting at Chelsea until November, and is on gardening leave until then.
There's no point keeping him at his desk, working away on our transfer deals, when we know he's going to be commuting up to Stamford Bridge before the year is out.
By holding him to his contract, and making him work (sit) out his contractual notice period, we at least ensure that the information in his head will be a bit out of date when he commences his new role.
Paul Barber's most recent role, before we recruited him, was as CEO of Vancouver Whitecaps. When he left there, and returned to England, he was doing some (presumably freelance) consultancy with Coventry before joining us.
The Fits
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Cave is assistant to Weir right?
You have to think that Thomas will step up. Watford have got one of the most impressive records in terms of talent spotting. I know he wasn't actually there that long and was mostly focused on kids, but he seems the obvious person to be promoted.
You have to think that Thomas will step up. Watford have got one of the most impressive records in terms of talent spotting. I know he wasn't actually there that long and was mostly focused on kids, but he seems the obvious person to be promoted.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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I agree. I personally think we should have contracts in place for all of our own personnel, reward them sufficiently with pay etc to encourage them to stay and continue to progress etc. But if another team comes along and offers far too much money to resist, or meet the required clause, then only then should we agree to let them go. If I was us, I'd ask for mad money like 100m for a relatively unproven PL midfielder of 60m for a left back who then won't even get in their team, or 20m for a manager who then is sacked a few months later only to see us employ an even better one. That would scare them off and show how big we are.
If only that's what we did. Then we wouldn't be pushed around.
tigertim68
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has another club lost some many staff , to another club in such a short period of time
Thunder Bolt
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I had forgotten about Vancouver. He did work for the FA previously though, didn't he?
Greg Bobkin
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I'm way beyond worrying about which team 'poaches' BHAFC staff but, to me, it makes a lot of sense why Chelsea ends up being their next destination:
1) To a lot of people Brighton are the envy of the footballing world, because we've got SO much right in recent years – and other clubs want to replicate that.
2) The location means that it's an easy commute, as opposed to a house move and all the upheaval that goes with it. Yes, more people work at home now (non-playing staff, obvs), but I get the impression you would be expected to get into the training ground at the drop of a hat.
3) The personnel that have gone before would've worked with a lot of the staff, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Chelsea Todd and co would work off recommendations from Ex Albion players, to get others and Losestanley to get the likes of Sam Jewell.
4) Spite. Potter didn't work out and ended up looking a bit of an embarrassment for Chelsea Todd. Cucurella, you could argue, has hardly set the world alight. So for 'revenge' Chelsea bods wave wads of cash in the face of Albion employees to get them to join the dark side.
There are probably others but what it tells me is that there's no point worrying about it because it's all out of our control. Where I think the club gets it right is a) having the right succession plan (or, at least, potential replacements identified in advance) and b) multiple people working across the whole process, which means that even if one person leaves, someone else knows exactly what the state of play is with a potential transfer target, scout, agent or rival club employee.
1) To a lot of people Brighton are the envy of the footballing world, because we've got SO much right in recent years – and other clubs want to replicate that.
2) The location means that it's an easy commute, as opposed to a house move and all the upheaval that goes with it. Yes, more people work at home now (non-playing staff, obvs), but I get the impression you would be expected to get into the training ground at the drop of a hat.
3) The personnel that have gone before would've worked with a lot of the staff, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Chelsea Todd and co would work off recommendations from Ex Albion players, to get others and Losestanley to get the likes of Sam Jewell.
4) Spite. Potter didn't work out and ended up looking a bit of an embarrassment for Chelsea Todd. Cucurella, you could argue, has hardly set the world alight. So for 'revenge' Chelsea bods wave wads of cash in the face of Albion employees to get them to join the dark side.
There are probably others but what it tells me is that there's no point worrying about it because it's all out of our control. Where I think the club gets it right is a) having the right succession plan (or, at least, potential replacements identified in advance) and b) multiple people working across the whole process, which means that even if one person leaves, someone else knows exactly what the state of play is with a potential transfer target, scout, agent or rival club employee.
Tiger Barb
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I don’t think that knowledge will be lost, the club is too savvy for that… but relationships and experience are personal attributes and can take time to build … I’m sure the club will have this covered, I was just stating that those where the elements we may initially miss
That's all well and good Bozza but the fact is that he's still getting paid for 9 months for doing nothing, and presumably we're going to have to hire a replacement to cover the period when Jewell is non-productive so it's a lose, lose for the club. We're unlikely ever to become a top six club unless we seriously toughen up in this scenario and pay enough to keep our top talent.
It'll be mostly money, it usually is. People can talk about all the other factors but they're only usually a major consideration when the money isn't materially different. It's a food chain - was exactly the same at senior levels in financial services.
I could hire directors from lower-ranked institutions because we paid more, I could usually hire from equivalent institutions by 'selling' the team even though any pay rise was modest but when the likes of Goldman Sachs came knocking on the door of one of my team they would usually **** off than you could say "50% salary increase".
I can't think of one but perhaps this is simply a measure of our success and how far we've come?
How would you suggest we do it ?
We should pay more and negotiate long term performance related contracts, that can only be broken with our express agreement and at an extortionate cost.
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Hove / Παρος
Have him scrubbing the toilets in WSU
We're not going to match Chelsea-type salaries for either players or any other staff, full stop.
No-one would sign such a contract, and even if they did any decent HR lawyer would tear it to shreds.