Okay, I shouldn’t have said “no doubts whatsoever”, my point was just that she didn’t think either was a traitor and didn’t want to vote for either of them
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[TV] The Traitors - BBC
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deletebeepbeepbeep
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Really? It couldn't have been anymore obvious to Mollie once Jaz voted to continue with banishment that Jaz wasn't a traitor. He had a right to believe that she could work it out.
You misunderstand - Mollie agreed with you, she was sure Jaz wasn't a traitor. But she also thought Harry wasn't, so she simply had to choose which faithful to banish. Jas made it clear he wasn't sure Harry was a traitor. He needed to be more persuasive, but he stood mostly in silence.
CliveWalkerWingWizard
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Harry got a bit lucky, surely when there were 4, Andrew and Harry just had to banish Jaz
No, Andrew had to banish Harry. If they had banished Jaz, Harry would 100% then get Mollie to vote out Andrew at the end. Andrew's only chance was to get rid of Harry when he still had someone (Jaz) to help, and Harry would not have shared.
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For a share of £95k I wouldn't just expect her to believe, I'd explain it till I was blue in the face!
But once Jaz decided Andrew was a traitor, it made more sense for him to follow Jaz and a) open the possibility of convincing them to end the game and b) winning twice as much money.
CliveWalkerWingWizard
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But Andrew voting for Harry just made him look like a traitor. In fact implicated him and Harry. If Jaz was banished they may have all voted green, Harry may have shared the money.
Pavilionaire
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Good call, respect.
You're as naive as Mollie
Loadicus Trux
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I did, at one point, think, has Mollie actually played a blinder here?
Has she identified Harry as a Traitor and then got in with him, knowing that he would welcome someone like her defending him the whole time, thus saving her from murder, only to screw him over at the end and take the money.
Sadly no. Too much to ask.
Harry's plan couldn't have gone any better.
Has she identified Harry as a Traitor and then got in with him, knowing that he would welcome someone like her defending him the whole time, thus saving her from murder, only to screw him over at the end and take the money.
Sadly no. Too much to ask.
Harry's plan couldn't have gone any better.
GloryDays
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Great ending.
#teamjaz played a good hand. Just relied upon someone else at the end. Yes, he could have been more persuasive at the final vote for sure but Mollie had already made her mind up episodes ago that, tbh, Faithful or Traitor, she was just going all in on Harry for some reason.
Harry got a piggy back from her all the way to the final. It's the game, he did well, but he's not Einstein. Have to say there was a lot of thick people in that castle. Great entertainment for sure but something doesn't sit well about long term manipulatiion of a very vulnerable person. Like emotional abuse in a relationship. Echoing back to S01 as well which isn't a very pretty pattern of history. I think Mollie knew and was just in denial - hence the will she / won't she drama at the end.
Excellent TV and a great insight in to people's psyche, but she might need a little bit of therapy.
#teamjaz played a good hand. Just relied upon someone else at the end. Yes, he could have been more persuasive at the final vote for sure but Mollie had already made her mind up episodes ago that, tbh, Faithful or Traitor, she was just going all in on Harry for some reason.
Harry got a piggy back from her all the way to the final. It's the game, he did well, but he's not Einstein. Have to say there was a lot of thick people in that castle. Great entertainment for sure but something doesn't sit well about long term manipulatiion of a very vulnerable person. Like emotional abuse in a relationship. Echoing back to S01 as well which isn't a very pretty pattern of history. I think Mollie knew and was just in denial - hence the will she / won't she drama at the end.
Excellent TV and a great insight in to people's psyche, but she might need a little bit of therapy.
pb21
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I think the reason was hopes that Harry had reciprocal ideas.
To defend Mollie here, every single player (bar Jaz) was dumbstruck when they discovered that Harry was a traitor, so she’s hardly stupid.
If you’ve watched ‘uncloaked’ then every player’s reaction to seeing Harry’s name is the same: “WTF!”
If you’ve watched ‘uncloaked’ then every player’s reaction to seeing Harry’s name is the same: “WTF!”
Agree, but that reaction could easily have been misconstrued as treacherous behaviour.
Cordwainer
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As said before..great TV. Almost played out as a popularity contest in the end..arguably on the surface the ‘nicest’ contestants made it through to the end..very difficult for Jaz to get people behind his Harry traitor bandwagon as Harry was so apparently beloved by all. Seems unkind to label Mollie as thick as she was clearly moonstruck by Harry and he, whilst not perhaps being the sharpest knife in the drawer, was able to milk that right until the end. Been interesting to see if Harry had been faithful, whether he would have lasted as well.