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[Football] Joey Barton
- Thread starter Guinness Boy
- Start date
He's lost what's left of his mind.
A secret gammon, after all his 'right on' bollox. Who knew?
A secret gammon, after all his 'right on' bollox. Who knew?
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
It’s his way of getting his name out there to be the next England Women’s manager 
Deadly Danson
Well-known member
I'm so tired of f***ing idiots.
macbeth
Dismembered
absolute head case, only a hop, skip and a jump away from the likes of david cotterill and le tissier
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,262
The philosopher and fine art historian Joseph Barton should stick to his specialist subjects
Farehamseagull
Solly March Fan Club
This coming shortly after he made light of the murder involving his brother. Lovely chap.
I remember when people laughed at the idea of 'foreign' managers in England. Villa had Dr Jozef Vengloš in 1991, and when it didn't work out, this was dismissed as 'because he's foreign'.
Now we employ managers who come here with barely any English, who then take sides into Europe, and nobody bats an eyelid.
I can see a woman managing an English league side some time in the next few years. Easy.
Lashing out at women having an involvement in the men's game, even as mere pundits, is the act of a bully. And a ****. I have always given Barton the benefit of the doubt (difficult childhood, mental health issues, etc.,) but there is no excuse for this.
The correct response, I suspect, is the one my mate Bill gave to a Scottish bloke trying to ponce 10 pence of us as we came out of the Nashville in Fulham in 1978. This was "sober up, ****".
(Bill received a head-but and a broken nose for his trouble, which is quite possibly what I would get off Barton for giving the same advice).
Now we employ managers who come here with barely any English, who then take sides into Europe, and nobody bats an eyelid.
I can see a woman managing an English league side some time in the next few years. Easy.
Lashing out at women having an involvement in the men's game, even as mere pundits, is the act of a bully. And a ****. I have always given Barton the benefit of the doubt (difficult childhood, mental health issues, etc.,) but there is no excuse for this.
The correct response, I suspect, is the one my mate Bill gave to a Scottish bloke trying to ponce 10 pence of us as we came out of the Nashville in Fulham in 1978. This was "sober up, ****".
(Bill received a head-but and a broken nose for his trouble, which is quite possibly what I would get off Barton for giving the same advice).
Perfidious Albion
Well-known member
I agree with him…. But in these days it is unwise to say so if you are a celebrity, unless you want to be contentious and make a headline
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Hove / Παρος
I wish Garth Crooks and Paul Merson would commentate on every game
Stato
Well-known member
- Dec 21, 2011
- 6,589
The problem with Barton's critique is that it relies upon an assumption that, before female ex footballers got involved, the male pundits were providing worthwhile insight, instead of just moaning that referees have never played the game and gently ribbing each other about their own playing careers like sad old drunks in a golf club bar.
The problem is not the gender of the ex pros, it's that they're all ex pros and being good at football doesn't make you good at communicating.
The problem is not the gender of the ex pros, it's that they're all ex pros and being good at football doesn't make you good at communicating.
pb21
Well-known member
- Apr 23, 2010
- 6,330
Football focus used to be much better when that bloke, Dan Walker, presented it. His extensive experience of playing and winning at the highest level of elite men's football really shone through, really insightful.
Horses Arse
Well-known member
If I was good a knitting I'd be able to comment on knitting. Not sure where gender comes into it. I find the female pundits pretty enlightening generally.
However, that screeching women on the commentary for MOTD can do one, hurts my ears. Her voice is horrendous, screeching to convey excitement is not good commentary. However, this is due to her having a shit voice and being a shit commentator rather than because she's a she/her/hers type of person
However, that screeching women on the commentary for MOTD can do one, hurts my ears. Her voice is horrendous, screeching to convey excitement is not good commentary. However, this is due to her having a shit voice and being a shit commentator rather than because she's a she/her/hers type of person
Monkey Man
Your support is not that great
Good, bad, and middling pundits can be found right across the broadcasting spectrum. I find it rarely has much to do with their gender, or playing career.
Though I did notice on Amazon this week (Luton-Aresenal game I think) all three studio guests were bald men. That just seems crazy.
Though I did notice on Amazon this week (Luton-Aresenal game I think) all three studio guests were bald men. That just seems crazy.
The Grockle
Formally Croydon Seagull
Moronic comments but I do feel pundits should be selected on merit not just to tick a box. Feels like the bbc are particularly guilty of an approach that borders on tokenism.
I think the best balance in punditry is when you have a couple who have been there and done it with someone from outside of the football world to chip in. Mark Chapman plays this role well IMO
I think the best balance in punditry is when you have a couple who have been there and done it with someone from outside of the football world to chip in. Mark Chapman plays this role well IMO
jackalbion
Well-known member
- Aug 30, 2011
- 4,044
Got to be on the gear surely?