[Other Sport] Emma Raducanu

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maltaseagull

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Not sure I understand the 'and yet'. She's done well 'and yet'?

She was ill. Breathing difficulties.

I was replying to this:
"She has a phenomenally confident mindset and says herself that she is fearless and believes she can achieve anything. Atypical compared to your average 18 year old."


i think she is brilliant and come across as a remarkable person.

My concern is that she felt ill at Wimbledon because, in her own words, " the whole experience" of her run to the Wimbledon fourth round "caught up" with her"

The pressure she will be put under by the media who expect so much of her will be immense and I am concerned for her in that respect.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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She is a British tennis hero.

Until she loses. And then she's a useless Romanian **** (see also: Greg Rusedski, Johanna Konta, Andy Murray)
 


Cheeky Monkey

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Another thread descends into a Harvest (Bin)Festival. Has there been a single thread in the history of NSC that hasn’t?
 


Rinkmaster

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I am lucky I am retired so can and will stay up and watch Emma in her semi final. She is a breath of fresh air in these gloomy times. I really hope I am able to see her play for a few more years at least
 




Sheebo

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Difference is, Emma is ACTUALLY British, unlike 2 of those you've mentioned.

And to make her even more appealing, she's not just British, she's ENGLISH. Some people never warmed to Andy Murray, often citing his Scottishness.

What are you considering British here? Just out of pure interest. She’s been here since 2 years old obviously but wasn’t born here (Canada) and her parents are both non British. Of course, she’s chosen Britain and has lived here nearly all her life so I’m supporting her as one of our own :thumbsup:
 


S'hampton Seagull

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What are you considering British here? Just out of pure interest. She’s been here since 2 years old obviously but wasn’t born here (Canada) and her parents are both non British. Of course, she’s chosen Britain and has lived here nearly all her life so I’m supporting her as one of our own :thumbsup:

She's more English than half of the England cricket team then!
 


Eeyore

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What are you considering British here? Just out of pure interest. She’s been here since 2 years old obviously but wasn’t born here (Canada) and her parents are both non British. Of course, she’s chosen Britain and has lived here nearly all her life so I’m supporting her as one of our own :thumbsup:

I think the only consideration with nationality would be more about where someone learned their skills. What's unusual here is that she would have grown up in the sport on these shores. Murray and Henman did, but none I can remember in women's tennis. Sue Barker was English trained, Virginia was South African (although born here).

With regard to nationality, I think of folk as being the accent with which they speak. The only time it bothers me is if folk use it as a convenience. Some English cricketers I have a problem with, others not. I never saw KP as English, but I did feel a great affinity with Jonathan Trott who was very understated and spent years in the county system. Others such as Strauss and Prior, as well as Stokes, have been here since they were young. It's all relative. And a country such as ours will have a lot of transience. It's a good thing as it teaches us to have a grown up view of identity. I remember the days when black players weren't considered English. We've moved on with just the odd PPF sitting in a pub corner moaning about it.
 




Sheebo

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I think the only consideration with nationality would be more about where someone learned their skills. What's unusual here is that she would have grown up in the sport on these shores. Murray and Henman did, but none I can remember in women's tennis. Sue Barker was English trained, Virginia was South African (although born here).

With regard to nationality, I think of folk as being the accent with which they speak. The only time it bothers me is if folk use it as a convenience. Some English cricketers I have a problem with, others not. I never saw KP as English, but I did feel a great affinity with Jonathan Trott who was very understated and spent years in the county system. Others such as Strauss and Prior, as well as Stokes, have been here since they were young. It's all relative. And a country such as ours will have a lot of transience. It's a good thing as it teaches us to have a grown up view of identity. I remember the days when black players weren't considered English. We've moved on with just the odd PPF sitting in a pub corner moaning about it.

Yes there’s no real ‘guidelines’ and I do think it’s good now. Most important thing is everyone has a choice of available countries to choose from if you are dual national or born somewhere else. Emma considers herself English and that’s great.
 


Wozza

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Difference is, Emma is ACTUALLY British, unlike 2 of those you've mentioned.

And to make her even more appealing, she's not just British, she's ENGLISH. Some people never warmed to Andy Murray, often citing his Scottishness.

Konta is an odd one, but Rusedski has English bloodlines at least (mother was born here).
 








Nobby Cybergoat

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I think the only consideration with nationality would be more about where someone learned their skills. What's unusual here is that she would have grown up in the sport on these shores. Murray and Henman did, but none I can remember in women's tennis. Sue Barker was English trained, Virginia was South African (although born here).

With regard to nationality, I think of folk as being the accent with which they speak. The only time it bothers me is if folk use it as a convenience. Some English cricketers I have a problem with, others not. I never saw KP as English, but I did feel a great affinity with Jonathan Trott who was very understated and spent years in the county system. Others such as Strauss and Prior, as well as Stokes, have been here since they were young. It's all relative. And a country such as ours will have a lot of transience. It's a good thing as it teaches us to have a grown up view of identity. I remember the days when black players weren't considered English. We've moved on with just the odd PPF sitting in a pub corner moaning about it.

I sort of instinctively feel the same.

To me, the question with anyone that moved here is...

Did they move here to further their sporting career or achieve more financial success in their chosen sport?

So, KP, Tuilagi, any of the Kolpak cricketers probably yes. If so, if i'm honest I don't really get behind them

John Barnes, Raducanu, Strauss. Clearly not. British. They have my full support.
 


Pavilionaire

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That may be so, but he's unquestionably Canadian, only with an English mum. Similarly Raducanu is clearly English but with Romanian and Chinese parents.

A perfect blend of genetics and upbringing:

English: Bulldog spirit.
Chinese: Hard-working.
Romanian: Good with the non-stop travelling.
Canadian: Nice beaver.
 






nicko31

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A perfect blend of genetics and upbringing:

English: Bulldog spirit.
Chinese: Hard-working.
Romanian: Good with the non-stop travelling.
Canadian: Nice beaver.

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Reddleman

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I am fascinated what your message could possibly have been.

I didn’t like how you mentioned that she was ‘beautiful’. Although stuff like that doesn’t normally bother me it’s that kind of casual sexism that has started to irritate me since I had a daughter. However I realised you had made reference to a former players modelling career and Raducanu falling into the same problems and so there was context for you calling her beautiful.
 


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A perfect blend of genetics and upbringing:

English: Bulldog spirit.
Chinese: Hard-working.
Romanian: Good with the non-stop travelling.
Canadian: Nice beaver.

It would be a lie to say I didn't titter.

However.....
 




Raleigh Chopper

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A perfect blend of genetics and upbringing:

English: Bulldog spirit.
Chinese: Hard-working.
Romanian: Good with the non-stop travelling.
Canadian: Nice beaver.

Classic Fast Show, superb.
No doubt she will not be English if she loses tonight.
I think she is fabulous in every way, I just hope that she can hold it together under pressure, especially if she gets to the final.
I am thinking of asking her out on a date when she returns, I hope she likes older men.
 




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