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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
It's obvious the regulars on both sides of the fence will never agree but you are proving the point I made in a previous post. Pronouncing 'Brexit as a 'total disaster' when we are only in the first stages of decoupling and in the first stages of readjusting from a long relationship within the EC/EU is absurd. As absurd as righting of joining the EC within a year or two ... to be frank, you lot need to grow up, get a life and move on. Get back to me in 5 years for a more realistic assessment.

Very quiet on this thread today... glad to see my advice had an immediate impact :thumbsup:
 






Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,540
Very quiet on this thread today... glad to see my advice had an immediate impact :thumbsup:

Okay just for you then, apparantly the rule about not being able to export shellfish to the EU was something we voted for in 2008, but naturally, our response is because of EU bureacracy. Good old democracy.....

Taking back control

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WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
26,328
Very quiet on this thread today... glad to see my advice had an immediate impact :thumbsup:

Is desperation for attention a good trait for a troll ???

*Edit*
I would guess that giving me a thumbs up from one of your other account within 60 seconds means that's a yes :lolol:

Have another exciting afternoon on here :bigwave:
 
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Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,540
This week's Tory Marr-crash is with Dom Raab, great comedy. Taking back control

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JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
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Perhaps you can fill the void by regaling us all with tales of the Brexit successes, thus far? Shouldn't take too long, eh?

Okay just for you then, apparantly the rule about not being able to export shellfish to the EU was something we voted for in 2008, but naturally, our response is because of EU bureacracy. Good old democracy.....

Taking back control

[tweet]1360897330136891397[/tweet]

Is desperation for attention a good trait for a troll ???

*Edit*
I would guess that giving me a thumbs up from one of your other account within 60 seconds means that's a yes :lolol:

Have another exciting afternoon on here :bigwave:

This week's Tory Marr-crash is with Dom Raab, great comedy. Taking back control

[tweet]1360987816168161284[/tweet]

:D
 










Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Perhaps you can fill the void by regaling us all with tales of the Brexit successes, thus far? Shouldn't take too long, eh?

Blue passports, out of the single market out of the customs union,out of the control of the ECJ ,points based entry into the UK ,no benefits paid up to Fiive years of arriving in the country
Trade deals secured around the world , no emergency budget food in plentiful supply ,way ahead in the covid vaccination roll out, day is day night is night
Regards
DF
 




Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
24,232


Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Makes sense though. I just don't know why it wasn't done decades ago.

Fair point and as you can see my original response was not to take it seriously. Something of this magnitude would usually be explored via a cost-benefit analysis and clearly none of us have the resources to undertake such an exercise. But that's never stopped anyone on NSC from expressing an opinion so here goes

My initial concerns would be

- the sheer cost given that the trade benefits would never be anyway near those of the channel tunnel (with or without Brexit)

- the near certainty that any initial costings and timings would be huge under-estimates (just look at HS2)

- the Scottish point of exit/entry's accessibility to the rest of Britain, but mostly

- the initial idea is a Johnson stunt (vanity project - a la lots of Johnson's project such as the garden Bridge?) and really has more to do with the failure of his Brexit deal to deliver to NI i.e. the motivation seem to be to get him out of a (short term?) hole by digging an enormous long term hole

The idea of a link has been looked at before. but then it was via a bridge. Apparently a tunnel would be both cheaper and more technically feasible.

On a side note, I gather the SNP is in favour of this; which might just be enough to make Johnson drop the idea. (If Scotland got it's independence, I'm not sure how that would place what's left of Britain in terms of access to such a tunnel. Would it be a Scottish national asset?)
 


sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
12,729
Hove
The old NI Bridge routine wheeled out again and re-branded.

Johnson likes to moot it when he wants to placate the unionists. It's always later shelved.
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,792
Gods country fortnightly
The old NI Bridge routine wheeled out again and re-branded.

Johnson likes to moot it when he wants to placate the unionists. It's always later shelved.

We built to the channel tunnel to access an opened up market of 500m people

Bojo's idea is build as channel to access a market of 5m people now subject to trade sanctions

Just silly distraction techniques to try and avoid discussing the real structural damage Brexit is doing to our economy
 


A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
18,603
Deepest, darkest Sussex
It's always later shelved.

Mostly because it's entirely impractical in almost every way, and even if they found a way round it the cost vs the benefit would be enormously higher. Although of course building a bridge / tunnel doesn't change the underlying reality of customs checks and the like, they'd just be made either side of the bridge / tunnel rather than either side of the ferry crossing.
 


Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
18,750
Valley of Hangleton
We built to the channel tunnel to access an opened up market of 500m people

Bojo's idea is build as channel to access a market of 5m people now subject to trade sanctions

Just silly distraction techniques to try and avoid discussing the real structural damage Brexit is doing to our economy

Yawnnnnnn
 








Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,540
Mostly because it's entirely impractical in almost every way, and even if they found a way round it the cost vs the benefit would be enormously higher. Although of course building a bridge / tunnel doesn't change the underlying reality of customs checks and the like, they'd just be made either side of the bridge / tunnel rather than either side of the ferry crossing.

will they dust off the magic money tree? Nice lucrative contracts afoot for friends of the cabinet.... Gove + Friends tunnel digging company Ltd (est. yesterday)
 


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