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knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
13,006
Here we go Gaffer. A pretty mediocre 12.52 for me (that's 3K BTW not the 5K) @ 74.11% AG. Set my pace for 12.30 but being buffeted by cross winds didn't help. Many thanks.

Here you are. Won't be joining the table for a while. That mile did me in more than the 105 slow miles in 2 weeks before. Absolutely fine now but the bloody mojo has gone awol again.

NAME NSC 5K NSC 5K AG NSC 3K NSC 3K AG
Big Nuts 18:16 74.72% 10:52 71.40%
Simgull 21:42 70.23%
GNT 12:52 74.11%

Think I'll add the mile table for statistical purposes. May incorporate it. Can see, for example, that you and I slow with AG distance and [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] gets better.

NAME NSC Mile AG NSC Mile Time
Artie Fufkin 80.57% 4:59
Knocky 77.74% 5:56
Fitzcarraldo 76.04% 4:53
GNT 73.65% 6:33
Big Nuts 73.15% 5.22
Ninja 69.89% 5:21
Anchorman 69.36% 6:39
Penny's Harmonica 68.60% 6:17
 
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Badger

NOT the Honey Badger
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May 8, 2007
12,838
Toronto
This thread has suddenly been taken to a new level of competition! I'm enjoying watching these impressive times coming in.

Meanwhile, I think I might have another strain in my right calf. It doesn't feel as bad as last time but I feel like one hard run will screw me up. Time to take a few days off and get my bike out.
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Here you are. Won't be joining the table for a while. That mile did me in more than the 105 slow miles in 2 weeks before. Absolutely fine now but the bloody mojo has gone awol again.

NAME NSC 5K NSC 5K AG NSC 3K NSC 3K AG
Big Nuts 18:16 74.72% 10:52 71.40%
Simgull 21:42 70.23%
GNT 12:52 74.11%

Think I'll add the mile table for statistical purposes. May incorporate it. Can see, for example, that you and I slow with AG distance and [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] gets better.

NAME NSC Mile AG NSC Mile Time
Artie Fufkin 80.57% 4:59
Knocky 77.74% 5:56
Fitzcarraldo 76.04% 4:53
GNT 73.65% 6:33
Big Nuts 73.15% 5.22
Ninja 69.89% 5:21
Anchorman 69.36% 6:39
Penny's Harmonica 68.60% 6:17

Hi Oh wise one. You know (it is axiomatic) that I would never question your competence and even less so your integrity. But you've flipped back to my old mile PB - it's now 6.24 and 75.37%. (Not a threat to your 77.74% nor likely to be.)

Sorry to hear about the mojo AWOLness. I've lost all interest (not that I ever had much TBH) in any longer distances, even in training.
 


timbha

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,016
Sussex
Sorry to hear about the mojo AWOLness. I've lost all interest (not that I ever had much TBH) in any longer distances, even in training.

i'm the opposite. I've got my mojo back, love getting prepared for a run, new running shoes, a few stretches, then i'm off ………..….. and within a few minutes my head takes over - i'm tired, something hurts, i'm never gonna be any good at this, why does that bloke look so comfortable running?, I can feel my dodgy ankle, i'm knackered, am I going down with something? I struggle home, exhausted, no energy for warm down stretches. That's it, today's run is out of the way. I loved it.
 




Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
i'm the opposite. I've got my mojo back, love getting prepared for a run, new running shoes, a few stretches, then i'm off ………..….. and within a few minutes my head takes over - i'm tired, something hurts, i'm never gonna be any good at this, why does that bloke look so comfortable running?, I can feel my dodgy ankle, i'm knackered, am I going down with something? I struggle home, exhausted, no energy for warm down stretches. That's it, today's run is out of the way. I loved it.


Lovely insight. I think - in the simplest possible terms and all other things being equal - it just gets harder as you get older.
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
13,006
Correction to GNTs mile. Apologies.


NAME NSC 5K NSC 5K AG NSC 3K NSC 3K AG
Big Nuts 18:16 74.72% 10:52 71.40%
Simgull 21:42 70.23%
GNT 12:52 74.11%

Think I'll add the mile table for statistical purposes. May incorporate it. Can see, for example, that you and I slow with AG distance and [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] gets better.

NAME NSC Mile AG NSC Mile Time
Artie Fufkin 80.57% 4:59
Knocky 77.74% 5:56
Fitzcarraldo 76.04% 4:53
GNT 75.37% 6:24
Big Nuts 73.15% 5.22
Ninja 69.89% 5:21
Anchorman 69.36% 6:39
Penny's Harmonica 68.60% 6:17
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,006
Just got back out with a slow 10 miles up and over some Brighton valleys. My breathing is still not right with continual sputum being produced, so I sat back and ran carefully. On the last mile I put in a few strides and found 6:10 mile pace relatively easy for 100m bursts. Most weird this stomach/lung crap. Not going to do much near tempo or faster till it's cleared I up.

I've been on hayfever tabs for 2 months it might have been them and as Spring is sprung I'll give them up from now. They certainly did the trick this year regarding hayfever giving me my best April since it started 8 years ago but may have side effects. Loratadine.
 




Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Just got back out with a slow 10 miles up and over some Brighton valleys. My breathing is still not right with continual sputum being produced, so I sat back and ran carefully. On the last mile I put in a few strides and found 6:10 mile pace relatively easy for 100m bursts. Most weird this stomach/lung crap. Not going to do much near tempo or faster till it's cleared I up.

I've been on hayfever tabs for 2 months it might have been them and as Spring is sprung I'll give them up from now. They certainly did the trick this year regarding hayfever giving me my best April since it started 8 years ago but may have side effects. Loratadine.

Might be worth checking out those side-effects. Sounds nasty. I'm taking a few days out to give the knee a rest. Will be on the rower.
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
13,006
Might be worth checking out those side-effects. Sounds nasty. I'm taking a few days out to give the knee a rest. Will be on the rower.

Cheers. Not too nasty as clear fluid, if it wasn’t such a hooha at present I’d go to my GP. I’ll just continue on the long hill work and be patient. Feeling in great running shape otherwise.

Glad you’re looking after that knee with cross training. I’m hoping to get swimming in the sea soon but it’s too cold for me at present even with a Tri suit, hat, boots and gloves.
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
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Jul 21, 2003
19,951
Playing snooker
After an injury-enforced lay-off since mid-January I've managed 5k ever other day since last Friday. The first 2.5k always feels like hell - just getting going and trying to find a rhythm. I feel slow, heavy and it's a real slog. But then the second 2.5k is absolutely fine and I feel like I could happily go further. I'm always way faster in the second 2.5k. Not sure if this is psychological or just a question of getting some basic conditioning back?

Happy to be back, but when I see [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] 5k time [:bowdown:] I realise just how far I still have to go!
 




ForestRowSeagull

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Jan 6, 2011
965
Now Brixton
Hi all - has anyone experienced similar issues with the Garmin Connect app where the time and distance etc at the top is all correct, however the map (and in turn what its sent to strava - which thinks the run was 7k) is wrong? It seems to think I stopped a few miles from home - im assuming GPS issues?

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After an injury-enforced lay-off since mid-January I've managed 5k ever other day since last Friday. The first 2.5k always feels like hell - just getting going and trying to find a rhythm. I feel slow, heavy and it's a real slog. But then the second 2.5k is absolutely fine and I feel like I could happily go further. I'm always way faster in the second 2.5k. Not sure if this is psychological or just a question of getting some basic conditioning back?

Happy to be back, but when I see [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] 5k time [:bowdown:] I realise just how far I still have to go!

Perhaps you need to count the first 2.5k as a warm up!

Do you run into prevailing wind on the way out and with it coming home?

And do you have something warm and wet waiting for you at home???



I am no expert, but I tend to be quicker for the first 2k and slower from 2k - 3.5k and then record breaking for me for the last 1.5k!

I put it down to wanting a rest mid run!

Then wanting to get every last bit out of my lungs and legs at the end, because I know I will be sitting still for the next hour or two!
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
13,006
Still enjoying Citystrides which is finding my runs very slowly at about 10 a day. So far I’m on 3 continents but have zoomed in locally for my map. Awaiting for the Moyleman course to be found to get a nice Sussex coverage. As a map nerd it will encourage me to run more when/if away in the camper.

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Simgull

Well-known member
Jan 3, 2013
1,652
Hove
Stormed to a new notparkrun best of 21:10 (AG 72.0%) this morning. Really helped that I met a friend to run with (2m apart) - shows how much harder you push yourself even with minimum of competition. I think I could go sub21 with a full parkrun crowd to run against.

In other news bought some new shoes from Kurt at Run - fantastic service again. Tweeted him about 6pm last night saying no hurry- he is delivering them today!
 


penny's harmonica

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Jan 30, 2012
733
Second attempt at the mile bought my time down to 6:03. Differing times between Garmin and Strava so I’ll let the gaffer decide but either way I took at least 13 seconds off my first attempt and got my AG in the 70’s. I thought I’d be satisfied with that but now being so close to sub 6 I’m going to have to go again.
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,006
Two new very impressive editions to be made to the current table. :clap2:

We need a few more on the table. Those who are chicken, give it a go, if not happy delete it before synching to Strava. Nobody need ever know. Come on join in.

Stormed to a new notparkrun best of 21:10 (AG 72.0%) this morning. Really helped that I met a friend to run with (2m apart) - shows how much harder you push yourself even with minimum of competition. I think I could go sub21 with a full parkrun crowd to run against.

In other news bought some new shoes from Kurt at Run - fantastic service again. Tweeted him about 6pm last night saying no hurry- he is delivering them today!

Great running. I may beg you to be my parallel pacer on June 20th for a 5k full out effort.

Second attempt at the mile bought my time down to 6:03. Differing times between Garmin and Strava so I’ll let the gaffer decide but either way I took at least 13 seconds off my first attempt and got my AG in the 70’s. I thought I’d be satisfied with that but now being so close to sub 6 I’m going to have to go again.

That's more like it, I begrudgingly say. VAR can only give 6:03 but the TV punters would be shouting for 6:02 but following the graph line it just jumps from 6:00 to 6:03. Best I can do is 6:025.

It's open to appeal if you send a SAE to @GNT. I need your age for AG.
 


penny's harmonica

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2012
733
Two new very impressive editions to be made to the current table. :clap2:

We need a few more on the table. Those who are chicken, give it a go, if not happy delete it before synching to Strava. Nobody need ever know. Come on join in.



Great running. I may beg you to be my parallel pacer on June 20th for a 5k full out effort.



That's more like it, I begrudgingly say. VAR can only give 6:03 but the TV punters would be shouting for 6:02 but following the graph line it just jumps from 6:00 to 6:03. Best I can do is 6:025.

It's open to appeal if you send a SAE to @GNT. I need your age for AG.

Thanks gaffer. After last weeks attempt I felt every day of my 52 years but today was far better. I may need to do some specific speed work training to achieve similar improvements before next time.

I won’t trouble GNT over today but I’m still unhappy with my Burgess Hill 10k time in 1989. I just need his address.
 




knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,006
Thanks gaffer. After last weeks attempt I felt every day of my 52 years but today was far better. I may need to do some specific speed work training to achieve similar improvements before next time.

I won’t trouble GNT over today but I’m still unhappy with my Burgess Hill 10k time in 1989. I just need his address.

I moved the cursor over your graph and could feel the pain. Not sure I have the mental strength to go again. I'm getting chicken.
 




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