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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,587
Lyme Regis
Boris's deal is about to go into the oven...

"The oven is on, it is set at gas mark four, we can have it done at lunchtime and the new deal I negotiated will restore our great institutions," he says

:clap:
 


Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
Jul 23, 2003
34,701
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
- Workers/Employment rights protection: Gone

Dear North of England

You are absolutely Donald Ducked. Thanks for the votes though. Happy Christmas. Love Boris.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Britain First leader officially joins Conservative Party: 'Boris Johnson is like us'
PM ‘obviously a populist nationalist under the surface, like the type of patriotism promoted by’ far-right group, statement says


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/paul-golding-conservatives-britain-first-boris-johnson-muslim-women-letterboxes-a9254061.html

Apparently, his application was turned down, but there's nothing to stop him paying for his followers to join.
 




WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
26,147
Apparently, his application was turned down, but there's nothing to stop him paying for his followers to join.

Whether they turn him down or not, the fact that the leader of Britain First sees the Conservative (and for the moment, Unionist) party as their political home gives a good indication of where Johnson's party currently sits on the political map.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,940
It’s heartbreaking. And frightening. We are in big trouble.

Indeed, from the moment he got his 80 majority this sort of thing was always going to happen. He has weeded out any " soft " Tory's left in parliament and he can do pretty much what he and Cummings want without interference. Even if he does something utterly outrageous he can ride it out as there is no way 80 + MP's on his own side will stand up to him to erode that majority. Many people said Corbyn " was not to be trusted ", but I fear we have elected a real devil in disguise. Because he was thwarted by parliament previously he is going to make us pay now, expect the worst and you won't be disappointed...… #notmyprimeminister
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Indeed, from the moment he got his 80 majority this sort of thing was always going to happen. He has weeded out any " soft " Tory's left in parliament and he can do pretty much what he and Cummings want without interference. Even if he does something utterly outrageous he can ride it out as there is no way 80 + MP's on his own side will stand up to him to erode that majority. Many people said Corbyn " was not to be trusted ", but I fear we have elected a real devil in disguise. Because he was thwarted by parliament previously he is going to make us pay now, expect the worst and you won't be disappointed...… #notmyprimeminister

Yes, my fear too. He can basically do what he wants now, with that majority.
 






Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
The remoaner regulars on here have been talking out of the wrong orifice for three years. You would think the recent electoral annihilation of the undemocratic loon alliance would give them pause for thought ... but no, on they go :facepalm:

There is something in what you say. An impressive 45 percent of voters supported parties that wanted to proceed directly to Brexit. The inconsequential remainder favoured parties wanting revocation or a confirmatory referendum.


This pretty much explains why the Cons wanted an election rather than a referendum.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I wonder if Bercow and Corbyn have any regrets on the Brexit deal, scuppering and delaying in the past? Now the scenario has changed.

Case of be careful what you wish for in a way.

Boris voted against the Brexit deal twice along with his ERG friends.
 












WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
26,147
I wonder if Bercow and Corbyn have any regrets on the Brexit deal, scuppering and delaying in the past? Now the scenario has changed.

Case of be careful what you wish for in a way.

But Johnson was also voting against Brexit, scuppering and delaying it, (and then even unilaterally pulling it), all the while he saw delaying and scuppering it as a path to power :shrug:
 
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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
But Johnson was also voting against Brexit, scuppering and delaying it, (and then even unilaterally pulling it), all the while he saw delaying and scuppering it as a path to power :shrug:

Not forgetting that Bercow didn't vote as Speaker of the House. His role was to uphold Parliamentary procedure. I love how the brexiters think he was somehow scuppering them, when he was doing his job. Put the blame on all the others.

After January, there will be nobody to blame except the Tories.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,419
First kick in the teeth for Wokington man, people have been completely gaslit

talking of gaslit, its a source of continued bemusment that people think rights covered in primary legislation need to be covered in Withdrawal bill. employment law doesnt change if we leave the EU, unless employment law is changed. EU do not directly make our law, remember?
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
talking of gaslit, its a source of continued bemusment that people think rights covered in primary legislation need to be covered in Withdrawal bill. employment law doesnt change if we leave the EU, unless employment law is changed. EU do not directly make our law, remember?

Why include it?
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,702
Gods country fortnightly
talking of gaslit, its a source of continued bemusment that people think rights covered in primary legislation need to be covered in Withdrawal bill. employment law doesnt change if we leave the EU, unless employment law is changed. EU do not directly make our law, remember?

The direction of travel is obvious. Do you think workers will end up with enhanced rights?
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
There is something in what you say. An impressive 45 percent of voters supported parties that wanted to proceed directly to Brexit. The inconsequential remainder favoured parties wanting revocation or a confirmatory referendum.


This pretty much explains why the Cons wanted an election rather than a referendum.

I seem to remember you saying it was outrageous that I pointed out over 80% of voters supported parties wanting to enact Brexit in the 2017 GE as this couldn't possibly be taken as a democratic mandate for Brexit

It doesn't seem to matter what the democratic result is ... 52 48 in a referendum, over 80% voting for pro-Brexit parties in 2017 or a thumping majority for the 'Get Brexit done' party in 2019 .... someone always comes along implying it isn't the will of the people.

The reason the Tories didn't want another one is quite straight forward .... they believed the first one should be honoured.
 


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