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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Anybody who watched last nights Question Time and heard the rubbish spouted by Layla Moran Lib MP and Jon Ashworth Lab MP will be in no doubt that there is only 1 man and 1 party that can bring about Brexit and achieve what the referendum voters want to leave the EU. Bring on Boris.

I'm pleased it was you that posted this, because it means that the complete opposite is the truth and we can all have a laugh at your total stupidity.
 




lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
Jun 11, 2011
13,728
Worthing
That was through no fault of his but the opposition parties determination to stop us leaving.

BG, your posts on football sometimes make me laugh out loud, you’re posts on politics has me rolling on the floor, keep up tthe good work.

It’s not 100% Johnson’s fault,Theresa Mays 2017 election that lost the Tory majority was probably more at fault, but, Johnson sacking 21 Conservative MPs, and then bringing back a deal that so upsets your only allies that they refuse to back it, has to be up there with the biggest ever mistakes of any Prime Minuster.

Just think, if the ERG including Johnson, had backed May, we’d be out now. If May hadn’t tried and failed to wipe out Corbyn, we’d be out now, that must really rankle with leavers.
And now, hopefully, the Brexit company ltd are going to split the leaver vote, and Johnson won’t get the majority he needs to get his crappy deal through.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
That was through no fault of his but the opposition parties determination to stop us leaving.

Wrong.
His deal had just won it's second reading, but then got to the amendments stage. He didn't want any amendments so pulled the bill, and asked for a vote on a general election instead.

His deal is now invalid as this parliamentary session is finished.
 


lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
Jun 11, 2011
13,728
Worthing
EXCLUSIVE: The Metropolitan Police have passed a file of criminal evidence against @BorisJohnson and Dominic Cummings' Vote Leave campaign to the Crown Prosecution Service:

This is a summary of a series of tweets posted by Adam Ramsey, a Scottish journo.

For us, this story began more than two years ago, when we got a tranche of Electoral Commission internal emails which revealed they had thought the Vote Leave/Darren Grimes relationship probably broke the rules. But they'd decided not to investigate:

This came on the back of stories by [MENTION=28306]carol[/MENTION]ecadwalla and [MENTION=13123]jim[/MENTION]waterson who had revealed the extraordinary donation from Vote Leave to Grimes's wee outfit in the first place.

And it led to @JolyonMaugham bringing a case calling on the Electoral Commission re-opening their investigation, which the commission then did:

One of the things the Electoral Commission emails had revealed was that the 'donation' to Darren Grimes's BeLeave almost all went direct to the Canadian data company AggregateIQ.

In March 2018, @shahmiruk blew the whistle speaking to [MENTION=28306]carol[/MENTION]ecadwalla about the exact nature of the relationship between Vote Leave, BeLeave and AggregateIQ:

In July 2018, the Electoral Commission ruled that Vote Leave had broken the law - overspending by funnelling money through BeLeave:

Vote Leave were referred to the Metropolitan Police by the Electoral Commission. But months later, nothing seemed to be happening, so we chased them up. We were told that an investigation hadn't yet been opened due to 'political sensitivities':

At Mayor's Question Time, @sianberry asked @SadiqKhan why the Met hadn't acted. He read out their response, saying they hadn't received the files for ages. It turned out what really happened was they hadn't bothered to collect them:

In July this year, 12 months after Vote Leave were found to have broken the law, the Met still hadn't reported any progress:

Then, a year after we'd reported that the Met hadn't done anything yet, I rang my colleague Jim Cusick and asked him to chase them again. That was September. Today, we finally got an answer:

Throughout this whole process, Vote Leave and pals have worked very hard to spin this story away. They’ve been so successful that some prominent journalists seem to have genuinely believed them. Hopefully that ends today.
 


Dick Head

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Jan 3, 2010
13,642
Quaxxann




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The Brexit candidate for Batley & Spen, Jill Hughes, has been dropped because she claims to come from Sirius, and aliens are already working with governments on earth.

Source, Yorkshire Post.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
31,867
Brighton
EXCLUSIVE: The Metropolitan Police have passed a file of criminal evidence against @BorisJohnson and Dominic Cummings' Vote Leave campaign to the Crown Prosecution Service:

This is a summary of a series of tweets posted by Adam Ramsey, a Scottish journo.

For us, this story began more than two years ago, when we got a tranche of Electoral Commission internal emails which revealed they had thought the Vote Leave/Darren Grimes relationship probably broke the rules. But they'd decided not to investigate:

This came on the back of stories by [MENTION=28306]carol[/MENTION]ecadwalla and [MENTION=13123]jim[/MENTION]waterson who had revealed the extraordinary donation from Vote Leave to Grimes's wee outfit in the first place.

And it led to @JolyonMaugham bringing a case calling on the Electoral Commission re-opening their investigation, which the commission then did:

One of the things the Electoral Commission emails had revealed was that the 'donation' to Darren Grimes's BeLeave almost all went direct to the Canadian data company AggregateIQ.

In March 2018, @shahmiruk blew the whistle speaking to [MENTION=28306]carol[/MENTION]ecadwalla about the exact nature of the relationship between Vote Leave, BeLeave and AggregateIQ:

In July 2018, the Electoral Commission ruled that Vote Leave had broken the law - overspending by funnelling money through BeLeave:

Vote Leave were referred to the Metropolitan Police by the Electoral Commission. But months later, nothing seemed to be happening, so we chased them up. We were told that an investigation hadn't yet been opened due to 'political sensitivities':

At Mayor's Question Time, @sianberry asked @SadiqKhan why the Met hadn't acted. He read out their response, saying they hadn't received the files for ages. It turned out what really happened was they hadn't bothered to collect them:

In July this year, 12 months after Vote Leave were found to have broken the law, the Met still hadn't reported any progress:

Then, a year after we'd reported that the Met hadn't done anything yet, I rang my colleague Jim Cusick and asked him to chase them again. That was September. Today, we finally got an answer:

Throughout this whole process, Vote Leave and pals have worked very hard to spin this story away. They’ve been so successful that some prominent journalists seem to have genuinely believed them. Hopefully that ends today.

Can see why some people in high places really want Brexit done as quickly as possible.

Stuff doesn’t usually get passed to CPS unless there is substantial evidence.
 






Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
9,874
The Brexit candidate for Batley & Spen, Jill Hughes, has been dropped because she claims to come from Sirius, and aliens are already working with governments on earth.

Source, Yorkshire Post.

Blimey, she's one of their more credible ones with that background.
 


Grombleton

Surrounded by <div>s
Dec 31, 2011
7,356
My Pleasure, meanwhile the silent majority sitting with their feet up waiting to cast their votes in December :wink:
regards
DF

you can only claim to be the silent majority if you shut the **** up for once.
 










BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
17,132
EXCLUSIVE: The Metropolitan Police have passed a file of criminal evidence against @BorisJohnson and Dominic Cummings' Vote Leave campaign to the Crown Prosecution Service:

This is a summary of a series of tweets posted by Adam Ramsey, a Scottish journo.

For us, this story began more than two years ago, when we got a tranche of Electoral Commission internal emails which revealed they had thought the Vote Leave/Darren Grimes relationship probably broke the rules. But they'd decided not to investigate:

This came on the back of stories by [MENTION=28306]carol[/MENTION]ecadwalla and [MENTION=13123]jim[/MENTION]waterson who had revealed the extraordinary donation from Vote Leave to Grimes's wee outfit in the first place.

And it led to @JolyonMaugham bringing a case calling on the Electoral Commission re-opening their investigation, which the commission then did:

One of the things the Electoral Commission emails had revealed was that the 'donation' to Darren Grimes's BeLeave almost all went direct to the Canadian data company AggregateIQ.

In March 2018, @shahmiruk blew the whistle speaking to [MENTION=28306]carol[/MENTION]ecadwalla about the exact nature of the relationship between Vote Leave, BeLeave and AggregateIQ:

In July 2018, the Electoral Commission ruled that Vote Leave had broken the law - overspending by funnelling money through BeLeave:

Vote Leave were referred to the Metropolitan Police by the Electoral Commission. But months later, nothing seemed to be happening, so we chased them up. We were told that an investigation hadn't yet been opened due to 'political sensitivities':

At Mayor's Question Time, @sianberry asked @SadiqKhan why the Met hadn't acted. He read out their response, saying they hadn't received the files for ages. It turned out what really happened was they hadn't bothered to collect them:

In July this year, 12 months after Vote Leave were found to have broken the law, the Met still hadn't reported any progress:

Then, a year after we'd reported that the Met hadn't done anything yet, I rang my colleague Jim Cusick and asked him to chase them again. That was September. Today, we finally got an answer:

Throughout this whole process, Vote Leave and pals have worked very hard to spin this story away. They’ve been so successful that some prominent journalists seem to have genuinely believed them. Hopefully that ends today.

Very interesting/Frightening!

Do you have a link?
 






Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Sometimes I wonder how we came to be in this utter shambles. Then I see one of your posts and it becomes painfully clear.

I'm afraid there are millions of them up and down the country, it's really scary that they just can't see the obvious, I wonder what is going on in their heads.
So entrenched in their misguided beliefs that they refuse to listen just in case they may here the truth.
 


Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,380
I'm afraid there are millions of them up and down the country, it's really scary that they just can't see the obvious, I wonder what is going on in their heads.
So entrenched in their misguided beliefs that they refuse to listen just in case they may here the truth.

I agree.
There doesn't seem to be that much going on in their heads, but their hearts are pumping with a massive, misguided sense of injustice, successfully orchestrated by malevolent forces that have hidden agendas.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
31,867
Brighton




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,322
Very interesting/Frightening!

Do you have a link?

not sure frightening, its certainly interesting. reason Met give for not investigating is political sensitivity, which would be a given for electoral law. they've taken 16 mths then refered to CPS for advice. feet dragging doesnt seem enough. wouldnt expect any resolution before election at this pace of investigation.
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,599
Anybody who watched last nights Question Time and heard the rubbish spouted by Layla Moran Lib MP and Jon Ashworth Lab MP will be in no doubt that there is only 1 man and 1 party that can bring about Brexit and achieve what the referendum voters want to leave the EU. Bring on Boris.

Chance missed 1. Boris - a Tory - led Leave to victory and was the obvious choice to take over from Cameron and deliver Brexit. He bottled it.

Chance missed 2. Theresa May - a Tory - has a Parliamentary majority to get Brexit done but opts to have a GE, blowing that majority.

Chance missed 3. The ERG and Boris - Tories - vote against Theresa May's Deal twice.

Chance missed 4. Boris - the Tory - finally wins a Parliamentary vote on his Brexit Deal, then chooses to go for a GE, thereby dissolving Parliament so his vote falls by the wayside.

And you pin no Brexit on the opposition?! Wake up, man!
 


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