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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,083


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,352
You’re right. On reflection, the idea of giving a brain to a Brexiteer is terrifying.

That gumby bellowing in the background of every live tv news broadcast seems to be a bit lacking in the brain department also, has to be said

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BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Meanwhile we have MP's like Labour's Jim Fitzpatrick that say they will vote for the agreement without even reading it. That is a dereliction of duty, nothing else

Not really if he believes that is what his constituents want or that any deal is better than leaving with no deal, which seems to be getting more likely.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,648
Gods country fortnightly
Not really if he believes that is what his constituents want or that any deal is better than leaving with no deal, which seems to be getting more likely.

Even if he does, giving a blank cheque to the Tories is just beyond belief. But that's what Brexit has done to Britain, the facts don't matter anymore. Its all about feelings and emotions.

There could be anything in that agreement, just wreckless...
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
For what it’s worth, I think you’ll get your Brexit. Brexiteers and Tory’s should be thoroughly ashamed of how they have conducted themselves over the last three years and four months. You won’t accept any of the blame for any of the fallout but yeah, I think we will leave. It’ll be a disaster in any guise but I think it will happen.

Finally acknowledging reality and waving the white flag to the forces of freedom and democacy ... well done sir. I wonder who will be the next Hiroo Onoda.
 




WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,927
Would have been longer if Mr Bercow had allowed it yesterday.

Possibly a little short sighted or spiteful?

No it wouldn't, what the Government were planning was a vote to accept it before it had been released, meaning it would have been less time (into minus numbers).

To be fair this may just be an early bid to retain his 'Two profs posts of the day award' from yesterday :facepalm:
 








WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,927
We put a case to the current members - Iceland, Switzerland, Leichtenstein and Norway - and they decide. Do the club members let us in ? Well we ignore 1 member of the Norway Parliament who doesn't want us - the hatchet job always spins this as "Norway doesn't want us".

It could be done easily, or they may need persuading on detail. Not paying our EU exit bill would possibly not be a great thing to have on our application form, for example. There would be some in EFTA who could have reservations, but the mood music I have seen seems reasonable.

We recently sent a delegation to Switzerland which was positive. Apparently, we arn't pursuing it now - but is that just politically convenient before the withdrawal bill ? Is the subsequent pivot so unlikely ?

Out of interest, what access would the UK get to the EU’s services markets (and, in particular, financial markets) if we were part of EFTA ?
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,084
The arse end of Hangleton
Finally acknowledging reality and waving the white flag to the forces of freedom and democacy ... well done sir. I wonder who will be the next Hiroo Onoda.

I think you're forgetting Nibble …. oh sorry Clamp ….. changes he mind regularly on whether we're leaving to remaining. Just look back at his posts - he's categorically stated we're staying but also categorically stated we're leaving. Split personality, which somewhat explains the two user names :whistle:
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,648
Gods country fortnightly
Finally acknowledging reality and waving the white flag to the forces of freedom and democacy ... well done sir. I wonder who will be the next Hiroo Onoda.

Didn't see any English flags in London on Saturday, wonder why...
 




Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,870
West west west Sussex
70% remain, probably 80% now...
Typical Brexit thinking from BG.

Just spaffle, assume you are correct and carry on.

30 seconds, just 30 seconds and 1 google search proves the lie, but that's just too difficult to do.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
I do hope so. I am deeply concerned about the consequences 'on the streets' should the powers that be turn around one day and say "you know what, it's not worth it and we might as well stay in the EuroGang".

Many want that, but I seriously would worry about that, and the rise of 'extreme' parties that will otherwise disappear.

I agree but there seems to be an awful lot of complacency from some on here .... which is odd because they often bang on about death threats and abuse towards prominent remainers (+Jo Cox), the far right etc If it's bad now, how bad would it get if those that support betraying the referendum vote actually got their way?
 


WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,927
We need the extension, there isn't enough time to properly scrutinise. Every hour something new is being discovered in the text. Any MP waving through the timetable isn't doing their job properly on behalf of their constituents

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I've just been looking at clause 30 and I think there are more issues with it than simply that. Give me a few minutes.
 




Seaber

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2010
1,130
Wales
Not really if he believes that is what his constituents want or that any deal is better than leaving with no deal, which seems to be getting more likely.

With this deal it could be a No Deal after the transition period if the Government don't offer extension. The timetable to get everything sorted within the period is so short it's almost impossible.
 




Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,870
West west west Sussex
With this deal it could be a No Deal after the transition period if the Government don't offer extension. The timetable to get everything sorted within the period is so short it's almost impossible.

Hang on I want to see what BG does with the FACT that Fitzpatrick's constituency was 70% REMAIN.
 


Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
12,949
Central Borneo / the Lizard
I agree but there seems to be an awful lot of complacency from some on here .... which is odd because they often bang on about death threats and abuse towards prominent remainers (+Jo Cox), the far right etc If it's bad now, how bad would it get if those that support betraying the referendum vote actually got their way?

It's still a minority talking about revoking article 50, and most of them talking about doing it if there was overwhelming support for that option in a GE

The rest of us simply want it put back to the people in a referendum on the deal
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,648
Gods country fortnightly
I've just been looking at clause 30 and I think there are more issues with it than simply that. Give me a few minutes.

If unamended we're looking at a 14 month countdown to a no deal, should boost the economy. Scotland will be desperate to get off the sinking ship Britannia
 


Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
23,917
GOSBTS
I agree but there seems to be an awful lot of complacency from some on here .... which is odd because they often bang on about death threats and abuse towards prominent remainers (+Jo Cox), the far right etc If it's bad now, how bad would it get if those that support betraying the referendum vote actually got their way?

Aren't we told we survived 2 world wars so we can survive anything? I'm sure a bit of civil disorder (at worst) will be quickly bought under control.
 


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