[Politics] Brexit

[melias shoes]

Yes, cracking performance.

I think Campbell is a top man, but of course you'd probably expect me to say that. He and Mr Tony were an effective winning combo (unlike Jezza and his acne-suffering momentalists)

You're right they were. I grant you that. Have a good evening H.

 

[Baldseagull]

So you don't think the trillions spent on dodgy banking debts by Draghi's quantitative easing programme is debt?

Who owes the debt is the question. The ECB is not the EU, the eurozone countries are not the EU. If you like we can say the EU is in debt, because every member state is in debt, but in or out we will have debt, just be less able to service that debt, and will create more of it if we leave without a deal.

 

[Lever]

Sorry,but you are just talking rubbish to disguise your lack of answers.Still trying to find these foreigners interfering with Remain,or the anonymous millionaire funding the Brexit Party.Not a very good troll,are you?Hope the EU don't pay you on results.

2p, I see a 'defend' Brexit Party mindset is locked and bolted in your brain; I just asked you as an intimate of this lot if you know who the mystery wealthy donor is that Farage admits has provided a substantial amount of money to them...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...it-party-and-people-are-suspicious/ar-AAAL0WK

Obviously you don't know, and/or are uncomfortable with being asked and so resort to standard meaningless insults. That's Nige's tactics so I am not surprised you copy them. Case closed.

 

[Blue3]

If an agreed deal is reached between the Mrs May and Labour what is the process thereafter ratification through Parliament or ratification through the EU I ask as the origional deal was negotiated with the EU then ratified by the member states and only then put to the uk Parliment.

Reports are saying a deal Between the Government and Labour is nearing an agreement if that's true and depending how close it is compared to the origional agreement with the EU this could take negotiations with the EU right back to the start, this may well still be being negotiated beyond the term of our fixed Parliment before being brought back for ratification by the UK Parliment

 

[Baldseagull]

If an agreed deal is reached between the Mrs May and Labour what is the process thereafter ratification through Parliament or ratification through the EU I ask as the origional deal was negotiated with the EU then ratified by the member states and only then put to the uk Parliment.

Reports are saying a deal Between the Government and Labour is nearing an agreement if that's true and depending how close it is compared to the origional agreement with the EU this could take negotiations with the EU right back to the start, this may well still be being negotiated beyond the term of our fixed Parliment before being brought back for ratification by the UK Parliment

The withdrawal agreement wiĺl be the same, the political declaration part will be different, and will probably be similar to at least part of the arrangements that the EU already has with non member states.
The EU will probably get it agreed before we do, but the order does not matter, just that both do.

 

[Blue3]

The withdrawal agreement wiĺl be the same, the political declaration part will be different, and will probably be similar to at least part of the arrangements that the EU already has with non member states.
The EU will probably get it agreed before we do, but the order does not matter, just that both do.

The problem with that as I understand it is the declaration is not binding and with Mrs May stepping down as I see it the Government will have to renegotiate at least part of the agreement or Labour will not sign up

 

[Baldseagull]

The problem with that as I understand it is the declaration is not binding and with Mrs May stepping down as I see it the Government will have to renegotiate at least part of the agreement or Labour will not sign up

That May could be replaced is part of the issue for Labour, there will be something in it to make change either impossible or require a vote of some sort I imagine.

 

[golddene]

It's just an avatar.
It's just showing my dislike of palace. Don't take things so seriously.

Who is the "face palm" intended for? Me for pointing out the childish nature of your "avatar" or for yourself for using the depiction? If the former, just how old are you? 12 !!!

 

[melias shoes]

Who is the "face palm" intended for? Me for pointing out the childish nature of your "avatar" or for yourself for using the depiction? If the former, just how old are you? 12 !!!

It seems you're easily offended. Don't take things so seriously. I'm not explaining it again.

 

[Two Professors]

Who owes the debt is the question. The ECB is not the EU, the eurozone countries are not the EU. If you like we can say the EU is in debt, because every member state is in debt, but in or out we will have debt, just be less able to service that debt, and will create more of it if we leave without a deal.

So are you admitting that the EU is in massive debt?The ECB has bought a huge mountain of bad debts from Italy,Greece,Spain and Uncle Tom Cobbley which can't just be hidden behind the sofa.God only knows how much of it is from Turkey and Venezuela,both possible renegers.

 

[Two Professors]

2p, I see a 'defend' Brexit Party mindset is locked and bolted in your brain; I just asked you as an intimate of this lot if you know who the mystery wealthy donor is that Farage admits has provided a substantial amount of money to them...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...it-party-and-people-are-suspicious/ar-AAAL0WK

Obviously you don't know, and/or are uncomfortable with being asked and so resort to standard meaningless insults. That's Nige's tactics so I am not surprised you copy them. Case closed.

I see you have a Watford zero-answers mindset,or your boss is on holiday.Do EU civil servants still get extra holidays?Perhaps the wealthy donor belongs to a UK political party other than the Brexit Party,and doesn't want their identity revealed until sure the EU elections are going ahead.Don't know if 'burning your bridges' is a saying in your language?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

...but lots of possible answers.
You're right, the whole thing was a complete farce.
We shouldn't make such a binding and massive decision based on something so badly thought out.

only because leave got the nod , you really are a sore loser
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

The whole thing was a shambles. From both sides. The Remain side was too confident and failed to deliver an informed campaign and also concentrated too much on how bad Brexit would be. They should have focussed on the upsides of being in the EU.

The Leave side appealed to the fears of immigration and a “dictatorial mega union” that was out to control us.

I don’t believe any of us are any better informed almost three years later. Which is why I don’t believe a second referendum would yield a different result.

Scrap it or get on with it.

Both sides have a lot to answer for.

but we are being controlled ,that was another reason for vote leave, WAKE UP AND GIVE YOUR HEAD A WOBBLE
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

It all depends on what side of the debate you find yourself ! Obviously as a remain supporter I find him quite invigorating as he argues for what I believe is best for our country, obviously you have a different view and aspect on what would be better for the same. As for being a "Horrible man" I'm sure he would be devastated to learn this especially from an individual who thinks it is very smart to depict one footballer urinating on another footballer, even if the reason is only for the difference in colour shirt the urinated on wears.

you'd feel so much better about yourself if you just come to terms with the referendum result, we ARE leaving the EU, no point in beating yourself up all the time .
regards
DR

 

[The Clamp]

but we are being controlled ,that was another reason for vote leave, WAKE UP AND GIVE YOUR HEAD A WOBBLE
regards
DR

One of the reasons I’m enjoying watching Brexit fall apart and get postponed out of existence is that it genuinely seems to upset a racist bellend like you.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

So another week on the Brexit merry-go-round - the gift that keeps giving. I thought at first that the PM's offer to enter in the talks with Labour might almost be a statesmanlike initiative and a way of squaring the circle. To do so she'd have to face down the 100 or so Brexamaniacs on her benches but given their ability to wind-up the troops in the Tory heartlands this is looking increasingly unlikely; she would go down in history as the leader who split her party and that's not her preferred legacy.

Brexit is a bit like a nightmare game of Monopoly in which you never get past 'Go'. So do all roads lead to a 2nd set of indicative votes in the Commons? And if so


a) will they do the impossible and actually agree on something?

b) will it be a something that May will be able to take to the EU and put on the table?

c) will the EU simply accept this (whatever it is) or bounce it back?


And, no, I don't know either.

 

[vegster]

One of the reasons I’m enjoying watching Brexit fall apart and get postponed out of existence is that it genuinely seems to upset a racist bellend like you.

I really can't see how they get SO wound up about the EU ? almost every argument about how bad the EU are gets torn apart. Do these few people have little Balsa wood dolls of Juncker and Tusk that they stab with biro pens all day ?

 

[The Clamp]

I really can't see how they get SO wound up about the EU ? almost every argument about how bad the EU are gets torn apart. Do these few people have little Balsa wood dolls of Juncker and Tusk that they stab with biro pens all day ?

Quite but I don’t think it’s really a brains operation.

 

[Baldseagull]

So are you admitting that the EU is in massive debt?The ECB has bought a huge mountain of bad debts from Italy,Greece,Spain and Uncle Tom Cobbley which can't just be hidden behind the sofa.God only knows how much of it is from Turkey and Venezuela,both possible renegers.

No it hasn't. You need to read up on how QE works.

 

[Baldseagull]

but we are being controlled ,that was another reason for vote leave, WAKE UP AND GIVE YOUR HEAD A WOBBLE
regards
DR

The UK has a bigger voice in the EU than Sussex has in the UK.