[Politics] Brexit

[WATFORD zero]

Well said. We have voted "out" so let's get on with it and all those remoaners in the cabinet, including that slimy specimen Gove, need to shut their gobs, unite and get behind the PM and the country.

If Theresa May decides which way she is facing, and faces that way long enough, maybe some people can get behind her. To be fair to people who want to get behind her, it's been hard for the last 2 years as she's been constantly turning surveying the horizon. Maybe she'll stop for a bit after Friday but, I have to say, I'm not overly optimistic.

Out of interest, which did you vote for 2 years ago ? 'Max Fac', 'Customs partnership' or 'no deal'

 

[sir albion]

I dont really post anything to do with the economy, it has no bearing on why i chose to vote to Leave the EU. Economies fluctuate, they rise they fall, they adapt to circumstances.
I chucked it out there because If someone posts their business will suffer if we Leave the EU, it doesnt mean all businesses will suffer if we leave the EU. If someone posts their business will benefit if we leave the EU it doesnt mean all businesses will benefit from leaving the EU. At some point there needs to be a collective understanding that we are indeed leaving the EU and it is going to happen, and that everyone must work together as UK plc outside the Union to help their country. Currently we have a whole raft of people in denial this will even happen or worse trying to stop it happening. These people are not helping,but i do understand why they are trying to cause harm and scupper any productive deals........just dont understand how they could wilfully wish to hurt their own country or as a previous remain poster wished......wishing people to lose their jobs.....how fvcked is that

We do have a large amount of people that are hell bent on delaying brexit and that includes politicians and much more.Leaving is a wonderful opportunity to broaden our horizons and like anybody who goes from employed to self employed you take a risk to make a better life.The problem is the far left types have no guts and no ambition and want our country to be controlled by the EU and dismantled slowly....anti British probably !!
The EU will eventually drain our resources as the quality of life throughout Europe is diminishing by the year and most countries in it have no hope of ever being abled to leave because they are to small.

If the EU was a fair well run organisation I'd be happy to stay but it has way to much power and every country should have complete control of its borders and more.Its an organisation that's basically an agency as it barks orders and takes money and distributes it.
Even worse is that it's basically run by Germany,France and Brussels with nobody else getting much of a say and how often do the second biggest contributors "US" get a say in things?
The sooner the better it's over with as it's been two years of this tripe already with two more to come..
The only real thing we're missing is a strong powerful leader that doesn't get bullied and walked all over from all angles...It's tiresome week after week.

We will become stronger in time and be in control of our own destiny

 

[Igzilla]

Total bollocks there HT. My wife renewed hers online recently, very simple process and had the new one within 4 days. I had to go to the passport office to get a new one for myself last year because I didn’t have two unstamped pages together which was a visa requirement.......I had my new passport same day, and spent less than 5 mins in a queue.

I'm trying to renew the wife's passport online. The site says it will take 3 weeks and we have to send the current passport back. Also trying to renew the son's passport and that's even more convoluted. I will have to phone the advice line tomorrow to see if they can explain what I need to do as the instructions they give are contradictory and could see my future 15 year old son with a passport photo of his 5 year old self.

 

[vegster]

We do have a large amount of people that are hell bent on delaying brexit and that includes politicians and much more.Leaving is a wonderful opportunity to broaden our horizons and like anybody who goes from employed to self employed you take a risk to make a better life.The problem is the far left types have no guts and no ambition and want our country to be controlled by the EU and dismantled slowly....anti British probably !!
The EU will eventually drain our resources as the quality of life throughout Europe is diminishing by the year and most countries in it have no hope of ever being abled to leave because they are to small.

If the EU was a fair well run organisation I'd be happy to stay but it has way to much power and every country should have complete control of its borders and more.Its an organisation that's basically an agency as it barks orders and takes money and distributes it.
Even worse is that it's basically run by Germany,France and Brussels with nobody else getting much of a say and how often do the second biggest contributors "US" get a say in things?
The sooner the better it's over with the better.The only real thing we're missing is a strong powerful leader that doesn't get bullied and walked all over from all angles...It's tiresome week after week.

We will become stronger in time and be in control of our own destiny

Well done, all stereotypes on parade !... I just can't believe you have started drinking this early on a Sunday ? or, have you gone through from last night ?

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Out of interest, which did you vote for 2 years ago ? 'Max Fac', 'Customs partnership' or 'no deal'

This is a good question for us leavers. I think the inclusion of 'Max Fac' is a little unfair as to the best of my knowledge it doesn't exist. I go with 'Customs partnership'. I hope other leavers answer this question.

 

[WATFORD zero]

This is a good question for us leavers. I think the inclusion of 'Max Fac' is a little unfair as to the best of my knowledge it doesn't exist. I go with 'Customs partnership'. I hope other leavers answer this question.

You're right, it doesn't exist, but the government are still insisting that 'no deal' and 'Max fac' are options, so I included them.

It's also too late for 'no deal' without a significant extension to our EU membership whilst we build a hard border in NI, introduce customs points, build lorry parks at all the ports, design, build and test new IT and manual systems at all ports and airports to handle the WTO rules and tariffs and then recruit and train all the staff to run it.

But thank you for giving a straight answer to a straight question

 

[ManOfSussex]

I read in The Sunday Times Treasury officials (#remoaners #experts) are pushing Mrs May to obtain a 6 month extension to the Article 50 process so to get an even better best possible deal. That'll go down well.

 

[melias shoes]

If Theresa May decides which way she is facing, and faces that way long enough, maybe some people can get behind her. To be fair to people who want to get behind her, it's been hard for the last 2 years as she's been constantly turning surveying the horizon. Maybe she'll stop for a bit after Friday but, I have to say, I'm not overly optimistic.

Out of interest, which did you vote for 2 years ago ? 'Max Fac', 'Customs partnership' or 'no deal'

He probably voted to leave like the rest of us. You know. Out. No customs union. Out.

 

[WATFORD zero]

He probably voted to leave like the rest of us. You know. Out. No customs union. Out.

So, after having 2 years to think about it, you still don't know either

 

[vegster]

So we are about to begin one of the most significant weeks not only in the relatively short history of Brexit but arguably in the long history of our country: on Friday we'll get the White Paper signed off. Can May actually deliver - not Brexit but a White Paper on which the most divided Cabinet in recent history can agree? The time for chiche and slogans (Brexit means Brexit etc) is now over and the vague fudges ('frictionless trade') also must be replaced by some specific. But what the feck will it be?

When you have a Cabinet Minister (Gove) not only tearing up a document that could have been the basis for policy but actually happy to have this publicly known it stretches credibility towards - beyond - breaking point.

As a Remainer I have no idea what my country will be standing for as expressed in said White Paper and I suspect that none of our Leavers are any better placed. And this, 2 years after the referendum is - with any sense of perspective - absolutely astonishing. I don't think anyone could have scripted - or perhaps even imagined - the post-Brexit narrative.

The political reality is that whatever they come up with will hit a brick wall in Brussels and quite possibly one in Westminster too - that's my guess for what it's worth (priced in Euros of course).

Whatever happened to " Strong and Stable " ?

 

[ManOfSussex]

Not convinced small town Ukrainian girls strive for the honour of being the best £100 hookers, but im sure you know best on that front.

Not really my thing I'm afraid.

The scumbag Ukrainian marriage scammer was an interesting one. He was jailed in 2010 and after he was released from prison in 2012 he was supposed to be deported, but instead he returned to the mean streets of south central St.Leonard's and was still living there as recently as 2014. I would have thought a strong and stable Home Secretary would have been a bloody difficult woman for him and told him to clear off. Instead Theresa May received a strongly worded letter from The Conservative and Unionist member of parliament for Hastings & Rye (also known as Ms Amber Rudd) demanding action and demanding it now. I've actually no idea if he was deported. I doubt The Home Office do either. Vladymyr Buchack was his name. Perhaps if he'd been black and worked in The NHS they'd have been a bit tougher on him and got him the country pronto.

Honestly though Pasta, a Ukrainian criminal openly living in Sussex - it's political correctness gone completely mad, isn't it.

 

[Gwylan]

The problem is the far left types have no guts and no ambition and want our country to be controlled by the EU and dismantled slowly....anti British probably !!

You have some very strange ideas: all far left parties are universally opposed to the EU.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Umm…that’s because you live abroad, do you not realise you are not entitled to the same fast service living abroad as we are in this country. The system works fine for UK residents, it is not anachronisistic for us at all. You have chosen to live abroad, expect delays and stop trying to be so entitled. You cannot expect as someone living outside the UK union to have the same privileges as someone living inside the UK union…….time you learnt this harsh lesson.
If you want the privileges of getting a quick passport renewal that we enjoy, move back to the UK where these privileges are superior to where you live.

This was not my point.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

We do have a large amount of people that are hell bent on delaying brexit and that includes politicians and much more.Leaving is a wonderful opportunity to broaden our horizons and like anybody who goes from employed to self employed you take a risk to make a better life.The problem is the far left types have no guts and no ambition and want our country to be controlled by the EU and dismantled slowly....anti British probably !!
The EU will eventually drain our resources as the quality of life throughout Europe is diminishing by the year and most countries in it have no hope of ever being abled to leave because they are to small.

If the EU was a fair well run organisation I'd be happy to stay but it has way to much power and every country should have complete control of its borders and more.Its an organisation that's basically an agency as it barks orders and takes money and distributes it.
Even worse is that it's basically run by Germany,France and Brussels with nobody else getting much of a say and how often do the second biggest contributors "US" get a say in things?
The sooner the better it's over with as it's been two years of this tripe already with two more to come..
The only real thing we're missing is a strong powerful leader that doesn't get bullied and walked all over from all angles...It's tiresome week after week.

We will become stronger in time and be in control of our own destiny

The authentic voice of Brexit?

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

There was a sky news poll prior to the vote. It asked why the remain vote insistence on sticking to the economy was not working . A huge majority of leave voters were saying their reasons for leaving were not economic ........yet remain pushed on with it.............and are still pushing on with it as a sole reason to ignore the vote
At some point you have to ask which prick chose to stick with the economic t-shirts and who is still choosing them now.................because it isnt working......tick tock as they say

I agree Remain put together a weak case but a la Trump there's sometimes not much you can do in the face of a campaign that hits a populist lowest common denominator. (Let's not forget that bus, while we are at it.)

Perhaps it's only when (OK I'll be kind and say 'if') the job losses begin to mount (etc) that at least some of those who voted on non-economic grounds will perhaps question why they did; it's only the negatives (prices, jobs, public services) that will really impact on the vast majority of people's everyday lives - 'taking back control' is pretty meaningless especially when your job has just gone down the Swannee.

 

[nicko31]

The authentic voice of Brexit?

It really does sum up 2 years of complete delusion, blind faith backed up by Paul Dacre and friends

 

[Publius Ovidius]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44659499

Bloody eU imposing rules to protect the consumer.

The soon we are out the better....

 

[ManOfSussex]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44659499

Bloody eU imposing rules to protect the consumer.

The soon we are out the better....

Brussels style bureaucracy at it's worst. It's political correctness gone completely mad. It's outrageous!

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Reading this thread, as I do, with a large number of gobby nobbers blocked, it is like reading the transcript of a conversation between a police officer and a drunken teenager, but with all the bollocks of the latter deleted

Occasionally there is the interjection of a social worker, but this is usually met with more tiny fist waving judging by the deluged of blocked posters' waffle

Yep, this thread is going about as well as a drunken barbecue on a sun scorched caravan site

Keep counting all that money that Boris has saved us, lads, and do let me have my share. A MASSIVE cheque will soon be in the post, no?

Incidentally the only people shopping in my local Tesco today were Polish, Russian and Ukranian, on a day off from crop picking. Das Reich promised that we could boot all this lot out, or have them back on scharecropper contracts after The Fall. But....these guys are well paid, well dressed and well behaved. How exactly will we be able to re-employ them on ship's biscuits? I can smell the tang of rotting fruit n veg already. No deal, no plan, no f'ucking clue. Well done, dipshits. I hope you lose your jobs. You jellybrain clowns.

Nonsense!
We have decided on our new passport and it's going to be printed in Europe.
It's like a jazz mag for the leavers.
Do try and keep up with the progress being made.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Brussels style bureaucracy at it's worst. It's political correctness gone completely mad. It's outrageous!

EU putting people before big business; you couldn’t make this up.