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Kinky Gerbil

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May refuses to back Boris Johnson's claim there will be 'Brexit dividend'

Theresa May has given an interview to the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg, and the BBC have sent out a transcript. Here are the main points.

May said said leaving the EU would free up money that could be spent on the NHS but she refused to back Boris Johnson’s claim that there would be a “Brexit dividend”. Johnson, the foreign secretary and leading Vote Leave campaigner, repeated this claim just yesterday.

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Fantastic news about NHS funding - the fruits of a strong economy and a Tory government. Stand by for Brexit dividend !!
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Asked about this, May said:

Of course, when we leave the European Union we’re no longer going to be sending spending vast sums of money, year in and year out, sending that money to European Union. So there will be money available here in the UK for us to spend our priorities , priorities like the NHS and schools.

But Kuenssberg asked three times if there would be a “Brexit dividend” and in her final question she asked specifically if May would used this phrase. May replied:

Look, there’s going to be money that, otherwise we would have been sending to the European Union that we’re going to be able to spend on priorities in the UK.

This is not just semantic trivia. The term “Brexit dividend” implies that there will be a net gain to the UK from leaving the EU. This is a key Brexiter claim, but one that is disputed by most mainstream economists (as far as they can make an assessment, which is only for the short and medium term). Leaving the EU will definitely free up money that otherwise would have been spent on EU contributions for services like the NHS, but economists say this will not compensate for the revenue lost from lower tax receipts resulting from lower growth. It sounded as if May was refusing to say there will be a “Brexit dividend” because she doesn’t believe it exists.
 






hans kraay fan club

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Only 365 days to go! It's going to fly by, what will you be doing to celebrate the great day?
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Ah - there we go. that's the front page I described earlier.

Beyond parody.
 


JC Footy Genius

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Jun 9, 2015
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A fixed end date that won't be extended because everything needed will be ready by December 2020?

The EU and the UK seem to think it's achievable which is why they set one. Sensible in my view as it focuses minds and gives everyone a deadline to work to. I expect most will be ready any extensions for specific sectors would need a new agreement.
 


Baldseagull

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Perhaps if you read the rest of the thread,even someone like you might understand.The fake german was bigging up german orchestras,you introduced a reference to the nazis,and the germans used to organise orchestras from their extermination camp inmates.Does that make it simple enough for you?Quite why any sane Labour supporter would draw any sort of attention in any way to the nazis,given their massive anti-semitism problems,I struggle to understand.Perhaps the Holocaust should be compulsory reading for Labour/Momentum supporters,with a picture version for Socialist Workers:)lolol:).

The topic was German orchestras, the orchestra at Auschwitz, was most likely made up of Polish Jews don't you think? The reference I made to Nazis was to the Waffen SS you claimed you drink/drank with, when not knocking them back with young Bryan Robson.
 














Herr Tubthumper

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And what about the investment from the EU to places like the North East , what will replace that ???

Thin air, and benefits.
 


ManOfSussex

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Apr 11, 2016
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The EU and the UK seem to think it's achievable which is why they set one. Sensible in my view as it focuses minds and gives everyone a deadline to work to. I expect most will be ready any extensions for specific sectors would need a new agreement.

If you say so. Nothings going be ready, as nothing's being built infrastructure wise, allowing anything different to the current status quo at Dover-Calais, apart from gridlock, so I'll be fascinated to see whats cooked up to facilitate the current flow of vehicles and goods outside of a customs union et al. That's just one thing for starters.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Only 365 days to go! It's going to fly by, what will you be doing to celebrate the great day?
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I imagine the bunting will be out in retirement and care homes?
 












hans kraay fan club

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Forget benefits, we won't be able to afford them as the millionaires will need extra tax cuts to make up for their loss of income

Forget the thin air, too, as free from pesky EU environmental guidelines, those same millionaires' surviving industries will be able to crack on unhindered.
 








JC Footy Genius

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Jun 9, 2015
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If you say so. Nothings going be ready, as nothing's being built infrastructure wise, allowing anything different to the current status quo at Dover-Calais, apart from gridlock, so I'll be fascinated to see whats cooked up to facilitate the current flow of vehicles and goods outside of a customs union et al. That's just one thing for starters.

It's almost like both sides are expecting to agree on a future trade relationship that limits/nullifies the need for major infrastructure at borders ... just a thought.
 


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