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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
I don't recall seeing that posted by anyone, delays to new drug availability, and greatly reduced access to radioactive isotopes for radio therapy, if we leave Euratom, as we are mostly supplied by the EU currently for these.

I'm sure all the isotope research performed in this country since the 1930's by places like Rutherford Laboratories,and AWRE,is well documented and would be easy to re-start production.And as I've said before,if they want to play silly games they can have their nuclear waste back we re-process for them,free of charge.
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Faisal Islam is.

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If you say so.But anyone who quotes a leaked document with some Treasury input,and regards it as gospel,or in his case Koran,must have a screw loose.The Treasury,and all the clowns masquerading as economists,havn't managed a correct economic forecast since 2003.
 


A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
17,916
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Do you regard buzzfeed as a credible source?:lolol:

And while you're here,some other whiner says nobody said no cancer drugs;

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Clearly not familiar with what a "primary resource" is.

As for your other comment if you don't think there will be a gap between the two then you're woefully ill-informed on how a thing called "the world" works.
 




pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,335
Isn't the whole point of BrExit that we leave the Single Market and enjoy the opportunities for growth through trading with the wider world?

You really think we will get a deal with the EU where by it is economically beneficial to be outside the single market rather than in it? Bearing in mind this report that concludes we will be 2% worse off post Brexit, but inside the single market, despite considering opportunities for growth through trading with the wider world?
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,962
Crawley
None of the scenarios that they have dreamed up numbers for is actually being pursued by the government. #fakenews

Not exactly, we seem to be pursuing something in between the second worst and worst outcomes predicted.
May was pursuing an increased majority at the last election and got reduced. Cameron was aiming for a remain result in the referendum, he got the opposite. The hard no deal exit that is not being pursued is still on the list of possibilities, and if not desired exactly by some in the Tory party, certainly not something they would shy away from if the only deal involved crossing one or more of the Rees-Mogg red lines. May could be ousted and then you would have to think on who would be in the running to take over, and how keen they are on Brexit as an ideology.
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,749
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
If you say so.But anyone who quotes a leaked document with some Treasury input,and regards it as gospel,or in his case Koran,must have a screw loose.The Treasury,and all the clowns masquerading as economists,havn't managed a correct economic forecast since 2003.

Okay, I appreciate your need to bring his religion into this, as that's very important to some people, and I know the authors are #experts, but the authenticity of the documents origin was covered in this tweet.

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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Okay, I appreciate your need to bring his religion into this, as that's very important to some people, and I know the authors are #experts, but the authenticity of the documents origin was covered in this tweet.

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I'm sure if I hadn't brought his religion into it,one of the humourless pc drones would have pointed it out,to show how 'clever' they are!It doesn't alter the case that we haven't got any decent economists working for the Treasury,as someone else posted,'they'd do better throwing a dart blindfold for their figures',or similar.
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Clearly not familiar with what a "primary resource" is.

As for your other comment if you don't think there will be a gap between the two then you're woefully ill-informed on how a thing called "the world" works.

Clearly a humourless pc drone.:bigwave:
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
And now a classically timed rebuttal from the Moggfather:

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Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,962
Crawley
See post a couple above !

I see, I thought you were referring to someone having made a deliberate and serious point, not a short remark using common hyperbolic vernacular.
If we are going to be literal, the post a couple above yours was mine, the post a couple above mine was not the post you intended, that was directly above mine, but I know what you mean when you say a couple, it could be a couple, it might be a few.
Can we agree that nobody seriously thinks there will be no cancer treatments available in the UK after Brexit, but that a deal that excludes EMA participation and EURATOM participation, would likely cause delays in new treatments coming to market, and would see us looking further afield to secure radiotherapy products, and possibly not have access at all to some?

I am sure we are not aiming for a situation where this happens, but if we stick to the red lines that some of the leave guys on here insist are essential to Brexit being real Brexit, this would happen.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,552
West is BEST
And now a classically timed rebuttal from the Moggfather:

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This would be the Same Jacob Rees Mogg who went on live TV to voice his disapproval of gay marriage and abortion (even in rape cases) and gives after dinner speeches at the TBG, an organisation that lobbies for black people to be sent back to their "Natural homelands", votes for decrease in benefits, votes down climate legislation ? Nah, you're alright thanks.
 
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Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,962
Crawley
I'm sure all the isotope research performed in this country since the 1930's by places like Rutherford Laboratories,and AWRE,is well documented and would be easy to re-start production.And as I've said before,if they want to play silly games they can have their nuclear waste back we re-process for them,free of charge.

I am sure we could build the expensive facilities required, eventually.
They are not playing silly games, they have protocols which we adhere to and it all works, it is us that is playing silly games and saying we can't do that anymore because the ECJ oversees it and half the people in the UK think they are the devil incarnate.
 










ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,749
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Is Starmer still in a job?

#amazing

Very predictable response. Tory Government problems = switch the focus on Labour/post links to Gudio Fawkes/Post something about Diane Abbott etc, etc. I know the drill.
 




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