[Politics] Brexit

[GT49er]

Not a thing. What have the population done to expect a total disregard for their UK status?

Not a thing. Do you not understand 'Not suggesting NI should be handed over to the ROI, just asking a question'?

 

[GT49er]

4 of my friends were remainers but now want out as they are fed up with the moaning from both sides

Yes, but surely you must also know lots of remainers who had lots of elderly relatives who voted leave because they thought all black people would be sent home, but now wish they'd voted remain?

 

[portslade seagull]

Yes, but surely you must also know lots of remainers who had lots of elderly relatives who voted leave because they thought all black people would be sent home, but now wish they'd voted remain?

Error sadly I don't. I'm sure some exist but a very small minority

 

[Baldseagull]

Not a thing. Do you not understand 'Not suggesting NI should be handed over to the ROI, just asking a question'?

I do, I was just asking a question.

 

[GT49er]

Error sadly I don't. I'm sure some exist but a very small minority

I'm glad you don't - I'm sure you know some very nice people. However, it is a claim made not infrequently by remainers, quite probably a minority of the 16 million who voted to remain, but how 'small' a minority I don't have any figures. Any facts?

 

[GT49er]

I do, I was just asking a question.

Not a thing - that was my answer. What is your answer to, 'What have the Unionists ever done to endear themselves to Labour?'

 

[Baldseagull]

Not a thing - that was my answer. What is your answer to, 'What have the Unionists ever done to endear themselves to Labour?'

Not a thing - that was my answer. My question was to highlight the irrelevancy of yours, by posing a more relevant one.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Incidentally, whilst you're fantasising and obsessing about the Labour Party again, I did see this week that Arthur Scargill had written to the one of the papers and had a letter published, I forget which, saying as an ardent Brexiteer like yourself, that the complexities of the Northern Irish border and Brexit can be easily solved by handing back Northern Ireland to Dublin and shafting the Unionist community there/a price worth paying. I reckon Farage would be game, what about yourself as a patriot? Fair price, or NEVER!

NO SURRENDER obvs (self-determination/democratic will of the majority in NI). The Unionist community has only one major concern re being shafted and that's from 'principled' politicians who have spent much of their career supporting a United Ireland while cosying up to Republican terrorists.

 

[Two Professors]

Yes, but surely you must also know lots of remainers who had lots of elderly relatives who voted leave because they thought all black people would be sent home, but now wish they'd voted remain?

Even more important,did they say sorry for wrecking all young peoples lives,and would vote for that nice Mr. Corbin for ever.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Not sure Labour could afford to potentially lose over 4 million voters if Corbyn decided to ignore.the referendum vote,he is many things but undemocratic is not one of them.

All policies of all governments are, or should be, arrived at as a result of a democratic mandate. You appear to be saying that it is therefore "undemocratic" for any politician or party to propose to the people (in the normal way, via the ballot box, as you imply) a change in those policies.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

76% of the country want less immigration and only 4% want more, your friend is simply fitting in with the vast majority of public thinking.

I'd imagine that 76 per cent of football supporters would like the price of tickets reduced. They might even vote for it if the implications weren't made clear to them. Certainly my friend, a cleverer man than than I but little interested in politics, is starting to feel a bit unsettled about the effects of 23 June. He's retired though, and won't be much affected himself.

 

[ManOfSussex]

NO SURRENDER obvs (self-determination/democratic will of the majority in NI). The Unionist community has only one major concern re being shafted and that's from 'principled' politicians who have spent much of their career supporting a United Ireland while cosying up to Republican terrorists.

I knew Thatcher shafted them big time with The Anglo-Irish agreement - they were most unhappy at the time. I saw a documentary a couple of years ago and one of The Irish Government advisers at the time said they could not believe a Conservative and Unionist Prime Minister would do that to The Unionist community, but she did. I knew she had contact with The IRA during the hunger strikes though, but I didn't know she supported a united Ireland. You learn something every day, so thanks for that.

 

[Two Professors]

I knew Thatcher shafted them big time with The Anglo-Irish agreement - they were most unhappy at the time. I saw a documentary a couple of years ago and one of The Irish Government advisers at the time said they could not believe a Conservative and Unionist Prime Minister would do that to The Unionist community, but she did. I knew she had contact with The IRA during the hunger strikes though, but I didn't know she supported a united Ireland. You learn something every day, so thanks for that.

I remember Thatcher and Reagan sorting out the Anglo-Irish agreement with the Irish Premier,and scuttlebutt at the time said Maggie didn't mind the Republic having to deal with 20,000 Loyalist freedom fighters,in fact she looked forward to it!

 

[Two Professors]

I had to look up the effects of the 23rd of June,but it looks like everything is ok now:

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

It's a load of tosh this "I didn't know what I was voting for"as we had months of campaigning and leaflets from the remain side paid by the tax payer "joke"also Obama over here brainwashing people with his clearly scripted speech...I just want out as this EU is really pissing me off.
We shouldn't pay anything to leave as we've paid enough over the decades.It annoys me even more that we have such a bunch of liberal pussys rolling over and not a backbone between them.

It's no wonder this country is potless all the time as our money is given away in the billions to foreign countries and I never knew that we paid over a billion to the "EU" foreign aid when we already give oueselves around 13 billion...How much more do we pay for random things?

Just get us out of this hideous controlling organisation please!!!!

exactly , be patient we're on our way
regards
DR

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...rexit-olive-branch-tory-remain-mps-bid-avoid/

"Michel Barnier claims Britain needs to be 'educated' over Brexit as war of words with David Davis escalates"

Going well I see.

 

[Jim D]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...rexit-olive-branch-tory-remain-mps-bid-avoid/

"Michel Barnier claims Britain needs to be 'educated' over Brexit as war of words with David Davis escalates"

Going well I see.

Sounds like he's going to drag us back to school like truants to teach us about the rules they're making up. That should have a positive outcome.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Sounds like he's going to drag us back to school like truants to teach us about the rules they're making up. That should have a positive outcome.

I have to say I'm am really puzzled why you guys don't just play your they-need-us-more-than-we-need-them-we-buy-loadsa-German-cars-and-Prosecco trump card, see them cave in, and get this over with now. What you waiting for? You could have been out and securing deals with Peru and Albania by now.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

I have to say I'm am really puzzled why you guys don't just play your they-need-us-more-than-we-need-them-we-buy-loadsa-German-cars-and-Prosecco trump card, see them cave in, and get this over with now. What you waiting for? You could have been out and securing deals with Peru and Albania by now.

I wonder what Fox's expense claims would be for a trip to Peru and Albania. About the same as any trade surplus?

 

[Two Professors]

I have to say I'm am really puzzled why you guys don't just play your they-need-us-more-than-we-need-them-we-buy-loadsa-German-cars-and-Prosecco trump card, see them cave in, and get this over with now. What you waiting for? You could have been out and securing deals with Peru and Albania by now.

Peru sounds like a good possibility,with it's mineral wealth,but we will pass on Albania.Apparently,Junker wants it to replace Great Britain in the EU.Good luck with getting any cash out of them,though I expect free movement will make it easier for Eurocrats to get drugs and prossies.