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Southern Rail STRIKE details
- Thread starter Ernest
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So we can expect another large hike in ticket prices then!
Pathetic fine. The most galling part is the phrase "unprecedented levels of sick leave were also to blame". Errr .... so make sure you employ enough drivers to cover sickness. As usual the government and the operator don't give a toss about the customer ...... much like the union lemmings as well.
Interesting. But impossible on the current track. So let's spend 100s billions starting again shall we? .
Baker lite
Banned
It's selfish so and so's like you that are sending this country to the wall,it's not all about you,forward thinking companies like southern are trying to drag the rail industry forward,it's called progress,deal with it...
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Postman Pat
Well-known member
The group behind strike-hit Southern Railway has pledged to fund 50 on-board supervisors as part of a £13.4 million deal with the Government to fund improvements for long-suffering passengers.
Govia Thameslink Railway (GTR), which is run as a joint venture between Go-Ahead and French firm Keolis, said it had reached a long-awaited settlement with the Department for Transport (DfT) over its poor performance amid 18 months of strike action.
It will pay £4 million to fund 50 on-board supervisors from next January for two years, while £7 million will be put into a fund for the DfT to allocate towards projects and improvements to benefit passengers.
The remaining £2.4 million will go towards target performance improvements and GTR must submit plans on how it will do this to the Government.
Southern has been involved in a bitter dispute with unions over proposals for driver-only operated trains, with conductors holding more than 30 strikes in the past year, while drivers have separately walked out due to the row.
But the railway has also been impacted by extensive improvement works, with GTR admitting it had "underestimated" the impact of this on the service.
Charles Horton, chief executive of GTR, said "We are pleased that this issue has been concluded, and accept and are sorry that our service levels haven't been good enough for passengers.
"We run the most congested network in the UK where passenger journeys have doubled in the last 12 years.
"This has meant we have been running services for more and more passengers while also allowing stations to be rebuilt, platforms extended, track and signalling replaced and new trains and technology introduced too."
Go-Ahead said the £13.4 million settlement, which will impact its rail arm profits, was "very close" to expectations.
But it said annual rail profits could still be hit by up to another £5 million due to ongoing talks with the DfT over contract changes, such as a timetable overhaul.
The group said the agreement "resolves financial uncertainty relating to past industrial action and allows GTR to focus on improving services for Southern customers".
But the funding package, including plans for an on-board supervisor, is unlikely to soothe trade union anger with members of the Rail, Maritime and Transport union last week staging their 33rd day of action in a row over plans to change staffing on trains.
GTR insisted its network overhaul had started seeing a performance improvement "consistently" over the past six months.
It added: "GTR now hopes that the trade unions will play their part in the modernisation programme too, so that passengers finally get the benefit of all the transformation work that has been and continues to be delivered."
GTR is run by Govia, which is 65% owned by Go-Ahead and 35% owned by Keolis.
Govia Thameslink Railway (GTR), which is run as a joint venture between Go-Ahead and French firm Keolis, said it had reached a long-awaited settlement with the Department for Transport (DfT) over its poor performance amid 18 months of strike action.
It will pay £4 million to fund 50 on-board supervisors from next January for two years, while £7 million will be put into a fund for the DfT to allocate towards projects and improvements to benefit passengers.
The remaining £2.4 million will go towards target performance improvements and GTR must submit plans on how it will do this to the Government.
Southern has been involved in a bitter dispute with unions over proposals for driver-only operated trains, with conductors holding more than 30 strikes in the past year, while drivers have separately walked out due to the row.
But the railway has also been impacted by extensive improvement works, with GTR admitting it had "underestimated" the impact of this on the service.
Charles Horton, chief executive of GTR, said "We are pleased that this issue has been concluded, and accept and are sorry that our service levels haven't been good enough for passengers.
"We run the most congested network in the UK where passenger journeys have doubled in the last 12 years.
"This has meant we have been running services for more and more passengers while also allowing stations to be rebuilt, platforms extended, track and signalling replaced and new trains and technology introduced too."
Go-Ahead said the £13.4 million settlement, which will impact its rail arm profits, was "very close" to expectations.
But it said annual rail profits could still be hit by up to another £5 million due to ongoing talks with the DfT over contract changes, such as a timetable overhaul.
The group said the agreement "resolves financial uncertainty relating to past industrial action and allows GTR to focus on improving services for Southern customers".
But the funding package, including plans for an on-board supervisor, is unlikely to soothe trade union anger with members of the Rail, Maritime and Transport union last week staging their 33rd day of action in a row over plans to change staffing on trains.
GTR insisted its network overhaul had started seeing a performance improvement "consistently" over the past six months.
It added: "GTR now hopes that the trade unions will play their part in the modernisation programme too, so that passengers finally get the benefit of all the transformation work that has been and continues to be delivered."
GTR is run by Govia, which is 65% owned by Go-Ahead and 35% owned by Keolis.
The unions are lying.
Every single train I have travelled on on Southern has an onboard supervisor who gets off the train and checks the platform. Every single one. They are new staff too. And I see new ones being trained most days. This is about money and I hope unions and their selfish members get their comeuppance. Loathesome people holding people who actually want to work, to ransom. Disgusting people.
Every single train I have travelled on on Southern has an onboard supervisor who gets off the train and checks the platform. Every single one. They are new staff too. And I see new ones being trained most days. This is about money and I hope unions and their selfish members get their comeuppance. Loathesome people holding people who actually want to work, to ransom. Disgusting people.
You miss the point. They are not actually sick. They ring in sick rather than 'work to rule' or go on strike so they still get paid.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The sickness blame shifting, like saying the train is cancelled because of a lack of crew, due to sickness, when the crew were on the platform, ready to go.
As witnessed by an Nsc'er a couple of years ago.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
If it's about money, why have the drivers turned down a 24% payrise (bribe) to drive DOO trains?
Because the cameras are inadequate, the platforms are curved, there are unmanned stations so disabled people have to book their journeys 24 hours in advance, and old rolling stock which are inadequate. The driver could go to jail, if an accident is deemed to be his/her mistake.
Baker lite
Banned
Amen to this,the last thing this country needs is people that are passionate about their jobs,sack the lot of em,it will also make tickets much,much cheaper,unions should be banned,selfish oiks.
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
This is the report that was buried. Read it and see the truth. It's not from the government, Southern or the unions, but by commuters who have banded together and will be in the High Court today to try to get justice.
https://abcommuters.wordpress.com/2...ort-on-rail-access-now-available-to-download/
https://abcommuters.wordpress.com/2...ffer-from-rmt-which-guarantees-accessibility/
https://abcommuters.wordpress.com/2...ort-on-rail-access-now-available-to-download/
https://abcommuters.wordpress.com/2...ffer-from-rmt-which-guarantees-accessibility/
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
On Tuesday, a wheelchair passenger left Victoria on a Southern train (without an OBS) to go to Clapham.
https://twitter.com/ABCommuters/status/885163147065081856
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https://twitter.com/ABCommuters/status/885163147065081856
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Yes. I'm aware of the claims. Doesn't seem to be the reality though.
Deadly Danson
Well-known member
No it isn't. I have driven plenty of trains in the last week alone which haven't had an on-board supervisor. 12 coach train last week. No OBS. Smoke alarm. Train delayed whilst I had to shut down cab, inform signaller, walk back to deactivate alarm, set up cab again. Maybe it was a figment of my imagination. Lucky there wasn't a fire otherwise it's just me to evacuate up to 1500 people. But it's modernisation don't you know.
I am sincerely sorry you had to do some work. I hope through this latest industrial action you and your comrades will never have to face the prospect of leaving your seat again. And with the new intake of OBS you shouldn't have too much to do. Stay strong.
