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General Election 2017



LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
No no it's not a score draw. One side cosied up to and clearly, supported (Quotes available if needed) terrorist scum in the middle of their bombing campaign killing British soldiers men women and children. The other is trying to secure more votes in parliament from a democratically elected group who have odious views and suspect links with terrorist groups in 2017. More than a minor point in my view.
JC, I generally disagree with but respect your views as they are sensibly articulated. You've lost your way on this one though. The thread I mean rather than just this post. So I'll leave it.
 






LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
They may hold views you disagree with but they are not terrorists.
Oh sorry, I should have said "partially funded by and supportive of". Hopefully that's better for you.

All scum in my book as it still involves people being murdered/horrifically injured in someone's name.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
JC, I generally disagree with but respect your views as they are sensibly articulated. You've lost your way on this one though. The thread I mean rather than just this post. So I'll leave it.

Ok.

John McDonnell called for the “ballot, the bullet and the bomb” to unite Ireland at the height of the IRA’s terrorism campaign against Britain.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mcdonnell-gave-his-backing-to-the-iras-bomb-campaign-cv33kbr2n88

Automatic disqualifiaer for high/any office in our government in my view :shrug:
 








The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,543
West is BEST
Be quiet halfwit, its only you that appears to have a problem with them. If people were queing up to spout your garbage you may have a point, you are though out on a limb just making excusses. So learn to read and try to endulge in debate, and I bet youve been told that plenty of times.

Hahaha. You're such a bellend. It's impossible to debate with you, you're pretty much illiterate, thick as pigshit, aggressive and incoherent. No son, if I engage in any kind of debate, it most certainly won't be with the likes of you.

N.B
I assume you were going for the word "engage". Engage in debate. Only "endulge" isn't even a word, you dolt. I'll skim over queuing and excuses.

"Learn to read". Hilarious.
 
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ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,748
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Remember - no negotiating today between The Conservative and Unionist Party and The Democratic Unionist Party - The latter don't do such things on Sundays.
 


larus

Well-known member
And that's all that matters to some.

And surely, as that is the will of the majority, it's right.

There was a referendum - choice made to Leave the EU.
There was a General Election. Result Tories 318 MPs, Labour 262 MPs. Labout LOST.

The delusion Corbyn/McDonald is incredible. They are asking for the Tories to stand aside and let them form a government. The maths don't add up. In effect, there are 642 MPs (excluding Sinn Fein and the speaker), so to get a majority one side needs 322 votes. The DUP would never support Labour (Corbyn/McDonald), so there will always be 328 against Labour. Then again, maths obviously isn't McDonalds strong point.
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,748
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
And surely, as that is the will of the majority, it's right.

There was a referendum - choice made to Leave the EU.
There was a General Election. Result Tories 318 MPs, Labour 262 MPs. Labout LOST.

The delusion Corbyn/McDonald is incredible. They are asking for the Tories to stand aside and let them form a government. The maths don't add up. In effect, there are 642 MPs (excluding Sinn Fein and the speaker), so to get a majority one side needs 322 votes. The DUP would never support Labour (Corbyn/McDonald), so there will always be 328 against Labour. Then again, maths obviously isn't McDonalds strong point.

Of course it's right. We'll continue to try to leave the EU on The Daily Mail's terms with the winning, strong and stable Conservative and Unionist Government at the helm, with the Democratic Unionist Party and The Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party all singing from the same hymn sheet...........oh hang on a minute..............
 












BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
If they refused to work on Fridays, yes. Do you know of any Muslim candidates like that?

Why Fridays' then, you just said the the DUP wouldnt do such things on Sundays and I simply asked would you be lend similar scrutiny to the belief set of a Muslim.
 


LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
46,775
SHOREHAM BY SEA
And surely, as that is the will of the majority, it's right.

There was a referendum - choice made to Leave the EU.
There was a General Election. Result Tories 318 MPs, Labour 262 MPs. Labout LOST.

The delusion Corbyn/McDonald is incredible. They are asking for the Tories to stand aside and let them form a government. The maths don't add up. In effect, there are 642 MPs (excluding Sinn Fein and the speaker), so to get a majority one side needs 322 votes. The DUP would never support Labour (Corbyn/McDonald), so there will always be 328 against Labour. Then again, maths obviously isn't McDonalds strong point.

Some people just can't see that
 


larus

Well-known member
Of course it's right. We'll continue to try to leave the EU on The Daily Mail's terms with the winning, strong and stable Conservative and Unionist Government at the helm, with the Democratic Unionist Party and The Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party all singing from the same hymn sheet...........oh hang on a minute..............

Am I saying things are good at the moment? No, of course not.

I want TM to go. Never wanted her to win the leadership campaign as I'd never really taken to her in all her years of being an MP.

As for BREXIT, one of the main themes (probably the main one) was immigration. I do not see how any party could implement a BREXIT deal without taking control of immigration. This was quite clear during the referendum. So, if I assume that most Remainers would agree with that point, I don't see how we can reach a deal with the EU to stay in the single market without free movement.

This election, even though TM tried to make it solely about BREXIT (as well as not engaging with the public and running a really crap campaign), it was never about BREXIT. Labour moved it away from that, and the own goals with the old peoples care costs and the focus on police numbers due to the terrorist acts kept it far from people's minds. The policy (bribe) to young voters worked as this was a major factor in their turnout. It just proves that people vote (in general) for self-interest. I have no problem with that, but is against what the left wing voters have been saying for years. They keep saying the Tories are selfish, but this vote has proved the Labout voters are too.
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,748
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Why Fridays' then, you just said the the DUP wouldnt do such things on Sundays and I simply asked would you be lend similar scrutiny to the belief set of a Muslim.

Friday is the Muslim holy day, is it not? I think I've answered your question there - I would.

When the time limit on the power sharing talks for Stormont was ticking earlier this year with a Monday deadline, Sinn Fein pulled the plug and put out a statement as such on the Saturday night as they knew there was no chance of getting anywhere further due to The DUP's Sunday rule. It would be quite quaint in a way, if it wasn't 2017.
 






ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,748
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Am I saying things are good at the moment? No, of course not.

I want TM to go. Never wanted her to win the leadership campaign as I'd never really taken to her in all her years of being an MP.

As for BREXIT, one of the main themes (probably the main one) was immigration. I do not see how any party could implement a BREXIT deal without taking control of immigration. This was quite clear during the referendum. So, if I assume that most Remainers would agree with that point, I don't see how we can reach a deal with the EU to stay in the single market without free movement.

This election, even though TM tried to make it solely about BREXIT (as well as not engaging with the public and running a really crap campaign), it was never about BREXIT. Labour moved it away from that, and the own goals with the old peoples care costs and the focus on police numbers due to the terrorist acts kept it far from people's minds. The policy (bribe) to young voters worked as this was a major factor in their turnout. It just proves that people vote (in general) for self-interest. I have no problem with that, but is against what the left wing voters have been saying for years. They keep saying the Tories are selfish, but this vote has proved the Labout voters are too.

The single market/free movement/customs union arrangement is a Tory quandary now I'm afraid - As I've stated, The Conservative and Unionist Party, Democratic Unionist Party and The Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party have differing positions.
 


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