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The Birdman

New member
Nov 30, 2008
6,313
Haywards Heath
We had three terms of Labour and what was left appart from a note saying no more money left in the treasuary
Years of neglect of the north and the Midlands also Wales no infrastructure and an illegal war.
Now labour wants to take us back to bad old days and will drive talented pepole out of the U.K. Again ,Which will lead to us becoming the sick country in Europe again and putting millions on the dole again.
Please don't take us back to the bad old days of strikes and that's is what will happen if you renationalise the post office and railways etc.
 




Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Unfortunately it would mean Gerry Adams Best Mate would then slither in.

Fortunately it won't happen.

You see this is the sort of childish,scaremongering rubbish that the Tories are yet again spouting.
People who carry on like this either have nothing to brag about or are ashamed of their record to date.
 


Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
We had three terms of Labour and what was left appart from a note saying no more money left in the treasuary
Years of neglect of the north and the Midlands also Wales no infrastructure and an illegal war.
Now labour wants to take us back to bad old days and will drive talented pepole out of the U.K. Again ,Which will lead to us becoming the sick country in Europe again and putting millions on the dole again.
Please don't take us back to the bad old days of strikes and that's is what will happen if you renationalise the post office and railways etc.

Yet again living in the past rather than thinking of the future all this happened many years ago and you have conveniently forgotten to mention the many good things that happened under Labour, the worldwide financial banking crash and the fact that we have eye watering debt which is higher than all the past few Labour Governments put together. And it's getting worse.
 


midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,737
The Black Country
Unfortunately it would mean Gerry Adams Best Mate would then slither in.

Fortunately it won't happen.

Yep instead we'll just have another five years of nasty policies that continue to line the pockets of the wealthy whilst putting pressure on the most vulnerable in society. Hooray for us.
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Yep instead we'll just have another five years of nasty policies that continue to line the pockets of the wealthy whilst putting pressure on the most vulnerable in society. Hooray for us.

Taxation policy can always be adjusted in the future however putting a man in charge of our country who supports terrorist attacks on the UK but is unwilling to honour our NATO commitment to protect our allies and has said he is against the police shooting dead terrorists on UK soil is beyond dangerous. And his best chum McDonnell is a self-described Marxist who endorses the call for an armed struggle against the police and army.

He's destruction of the Labour Party is bad enough, I shudder to think what he'd do to given the keys to No 10.
 




The Birdman

New member
Nov 30, 2008
6,313
Haywards Heath
Yet again living in the past rather than thinking of the future all this happened many years ago and you have conveniently forgotten to mention the many good things that happened under Labour, the worldwide financial banking crash and the fact that we have eye watering debt which is higher than all the past few Labour Governments put together. And it's getting worse.
yes learning from the past and I am worried for the poor youngsters in the future all parties have made mistakes I think the one I regret is when the Tories allowed pepole to buy council houses and didint let councils use the money to build more houses. But I do think labour talking about a class war which is going back to the past which is why many labour MPs don't surppot J C.
 


midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,737
The Black Country
Taxation policy can always be adjusted in the future however putting a man in charge of our country who supports terrorist attacks on the UK but is unwilling to honour our NATO commitment to protect our allies and has said he is against the police shooting dead terrorists on UK soil is beyond dangerous. And his best chum McDonnell is a self-described Marxist who endorses the call for an armed struggle against the police and army.

He's destruction of the Labour Party is bad enough, I shudder to think what he'd do to given the keys to No 10.

Just how does he support terrorist attacks in the UK? ???
Do you HONESTLY believe that?
 


sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
12,541
Hove
-- will it ever appear?
-- if it does, will it contain anything?
-- if it contains anything, will any of it have anything remotely related to policies?
It'll be the world's shortest manifesto.

All May can do is slag off other parties and turn the conversation to criticism of rivals ( After saying 'strong and stable' a few hundred times ).
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Just how does he support terrorist attacks in the UK? ???
Do you HONESTLY believe that?

By supporting the IRA. And yes, I bloody well do. The IRA murdered British people on British soil and abroad. Corbyn honoured dead IRA terrorists and active "soldiers" - the people murdering British people in Hyde Park, Warrington, Oxford Street... McDonnell is even more of a fanboy and he's got the awards to prove it, quite literally.

Please don't insult my intelligence by claiming that he didn't support the IRA.
 




Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,739
LOONEY BIN
By supporting the IRA. And yes, I bloody well do. The IRA murdered British people on British soil and abroad. Corbyn honoured dead IRA terrorists and active "soldiers" - the people murdering British people in Hyde Park, Warrington, Oxford Street... McDonnell is even more of a fanboy and he's got the awards to prove it, quite literally.

Please don't insult my intelligence by claiming that he didn't support the IRA.

What a FOOL you are
 




midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,737
The Black Country
By supporting the IRA. And yes, I bloody well do. The IRA murdered British people on British soil and abroad. Corbyn honoured dead IRA terrorists and active soldiers - the people murdering British people in Hyde Park, Warrington, Oxford Street... McDonnell is even more of a fanboy and he's got the awards to prove it, quite literally.

Please don't insult my intelligence by claiming that he didn't support the IRA.

He proposed a political dialogue to stop blood shed because he believed violence wasn't the answer. The Tories also proposed talks in the early 90s. Is Thatcher a terrorist sympathiser too?
 


jakarta

Well-known member
May 25, 2007
15,635
Sullington
Just how does he support terrorist attacks in the UK? ???
Do you HONESTLY believe that?

I know it's a Murdoch Rag and all that but there is an article on the front page of the Sunday Times today.

I'm sure he wasn't actually arrested outside the Old Bailey in 1986 while in a picket showing solidarity with the IRA Brighton Bomber Patrick Magee.

As such it must be libel so I'm sure he is instructing his Lawyers as we speak...
 








Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
He proposed a political dialogue to stop blood shed because he believed violence wasn't the answer. The Tories also proposed talks in the early 90s. Is Thatcher a terrorist sympathiser too?

Absolute rubbish. He literally praised and honoured IRA terrorists and couldn't bring himself to condemn the violence even in 2015. You know damn well Corbyn played no part in any of the peace talks and he never ever tried to open dialogue with the Unionists, his friendship was solely with IRA/Sinn Fein and he was very vocal in his support for both.
 




midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,737
The Black Country
Absolute rubbish. He literally praised and honoured IRA terrorists and couldn't bring himself to condemn the violence even in 2015. You know damn well Corbyn played no part in any of the peace talks and he never ever tried to open dialogue with the Unionists, his friendship was solely with IRA/Sinn Fein and he was very vocal in his support for both.

We know that Corbyn talked to the IRA because he did it openly, but at the very same time Corbyn was openly talking to the IRA the political establishment were conducting secret backdoor deals with them.

- In 1972 the Tory government of Edward Heath conducted secret negotiations with the IRA. The truth was only revealed in 2003.

- Margaret Thatcher always used to insist that she did not negotiate with terrorists, but in 2011 declassified documents revealed that that's exactly what she did. She negotiated with the IRA in 1981 during the hunger strikes, and the documents detailing the negotiating position of the UK government even featured annotations in her handwriting!

-Thatcher also gave her personal approval to secret talks with the IRA in 1990 too. So much for her not negotiating with terrorists rhetoric eh?

-In 1993 the revelation that John Major's government had been conducting secret talks with the IRA created a huge political scandal, with several Tory MPs (who were clearly unaware of Thatcher's secret talks with the IRA) reacting with horror at the revelation that the not negotiating with terrorists line was a total lie.

- In 2008 it was revealed that the UK government maintained a secret back channel to talk with the IRA for two decades all the way from 1973 and 1993.

- From 1997 onward Tony Blair's government conducted negotiations with the IRA that eventually led to the Good Friday Agreement, the power-sharing deal and the successful deescalation of the troubles. During this process Tony Blair had secret talks with the IRA in 1999.

- In 2010 an Tory peer called David James openly admitted that he had a history of secretly laundering money for the IRA. He still sits in the unelected House of Lords as a Tory peer!

It's astoundingly hypocritical for right-wingers to slam Corbyn for having openly talked to the IRA when the political establishment they're defending were doing the same thing in, but in secret, for decades.
 




jakarta

Well-known member
May 25, 2007
15,635
Sullington
Yours must have been joking post as it has no relevance to the truth so direct yourself anywhere you like but not here

I wish you would stick to your DICK TIGHT football posts, the IRA were never funny, my Brother & Sister-in-Law were in Central Warrington on the day of the Bombing.

As a consequence the thought of Corbyn & McDonnell being anywhere near Downing Street turns my stomach. Now leave the adults to talk about this.
 


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,739
LOONEY BIN
I wish you would stick to your DICK TIGHT football posts, the IRA were never funny, my Brother & Sister-in-Law were in Central Warrington on the day of the Bombing.

As a consequence the thought of Corbyn & Mcdonnell being anywhere near Downing Street turns my stomach. Now leave the adults to talk about this.

Another one who hasn't a clue, grow up and get an education and come back when you've learnt something
 


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