General Election 2017

[midnight_rendezvous]

writings on the wall folks
regards
DR

That we're turkeys are we're voting for Christmas?

 

[GT49er]

I think he will. Whatever is left of the Labour party will drive out any moderates/Blairites etc. They've got to then form something with the Liberal Democrats, who's name is tarnished in large quarters in any case, and try and create a strong and stable opposition.

They'll need a bit of luck with that then! New 'new Labour' linking up with the party that got into bed with the Tories in 2010 will have core Labour voters storming the barricades to vote for them...................not!

 

[Soulman]

 

[ManOfSussex]

They'll need a bit of luck with that then! New 'new Labour' linking up with the party that got into bed with the Tories in 2010 will have core Labour voters storming the barricades to vote for them...................not!

Do you have any better or alternative suggestions? The SDP left the Labour party as it was hard-left and unelectable in the 1980's. I don't see Labour, who are the largest political party in Europe now, dropping Corbyn and whatever else they've got left after the election and coming back to the centre ground. They'll stay as they are - left-wing and un-electable. The Liberal Democrats name is tarnished as you say, by events of 2010, the moderates that will remain in the Labour party are on borrowed time and can't fight the left - they need to leave and a new party form, in my opinion.

 

[Soulman]

Meanwhile what's left of UKIP is hard at work advising the Irish what to do to avoid any adverse effects from Brexit - http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/n...-real-friends-are-when-brexit-comes-1.3072800

I'm sure that will go down well, as they're always charmed and delighted at being given advice by right-wing Englishmen.

It amuses me how last night and the upcoming election that posters keep on about UKIP. I am afraid it does not deflect away from the poor showing by the main opposition, Labour.
We have had years of posters stating that UKIP had no seats, 1 seat, were no threat etc etc, so now the party is pretty much finished....for the moment.
Why do i and many UKIP supporters feel quite happy, whilst Labour supporters seem miserable and angry........how do we get there i don't care, all i know is Brexits on it's way.

 

[GT49er]

Labour wins huge majority in local elections after Diane Abbott counts the votes.
Labour is expected to gain more than eighty million seats after Diane Abbott was asked to count the votes this morning.
http://newsthump.com/2017/05/05/lab...lections-after-diane-abbott-counts-the-votes/

Perhaps she could be signed up for the next one in this series of adverts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykOtG9Savjc
........on the other hand, would anybody buy anything she was advertising?

 

[Gwylan]

TORY Andy Street WINS the West Midlands mayoral election.

That has to be seen as a HUGE result for the Tories.

Hmmm ... the interesting thing about that result is that the Labour candidate, Sion Simon, is more Blairite than Blair. I can already hear the Corbynistas saying that Labour lost that because he wasn't left wing enough.

 

[ManOfSussex]

It amuses me how last night and the upcoming election that posters keep on about UKIP. I am afraid it does not deflect away from the poor showing by the main opposition, Labour.
We have had years of posters stating that UKIP had no seats, 1 seat, were no threat etc etc, so now the party is pretty much finished....for the moment.
Why do i and many UKIP supporters feel quite happy, whilst Labour supporters seem miserable and angry........how do we get there i don't care, all i know is Brexits on it's way.

That post was more about Nigel Farage making friends and influencing people than UKIP. I'm pleased UKIP have finished now - they were a one policy protest party that served their purpose and have descended into an irrelevant, nasty rabble.

I agree totally with you Labour's showing has been nothing other than pitiful, not I voted Labour yesterday though. The state of the opposition does nobody any favours, does a great disservice to the country and is sadly sullying the name of the party of Clement Atlee.

 

[neilbard]

UKIP Labour

 

[nicko31]

Gotta love the Tories

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-camerons-young-sidekick-claims-1852193

Meanwhile lost seats in Oxfordshire and have no majority in the County Council

 

[GT49er]

Do you have any better or alternative suggestions? The SDP left the Labour party as it was hard-left and unelectable in the 1980's.

No idea at all! But then again, that's not my job, fortunately! What happened back in the 80s didn't work too well back then either - the SDP proved to be equally unelectable! Around that time there were occasions when I marked my ballot paper, 'None of these.'
This time round, my hands are tied - I don't trust any of the other parties not to try and weasel a way out of Brexiting, so, much as it hurts and goes completely against the grain, it's going to have to be a vote for the Conservatives, just until we're well and truly out of the EU.

 

[ManOfSussex]

No idea at all!

Therein lies the problem - I honestly don't think anyone does, inside of politics or out of it.

 

[Soulman]

UKIP Labour

 

[GT49er]

Hmmm ... the interesting thing about that result is that the Labour candidate, Sion Simon, is more Blairite than Blair. I can already hear the Corbynistas saying that Labour lost that because he wasn't left wing enough.

The Corbynistas will probably say that, but they are wrong. Sion Simon will have lost votes on two counts - one, he was representing a party that at the miment is frankly barking mad, and second, by being 'more Blairite than Blair' he will be an extreme remainer who wants another referendum (and presumably more referendums after that until we, the electorate, finally give up and provide the 'right' result).

 

[Hastings gull]

Indeed it looks like a coronation, our worst ever PM will beat the 2nd worst ever Leader of the Opposition.

If you can afford it, get private health care, if not keep a pack of 48 Paracetamol handy to avoid a lingering death. If you work in the public sector as anything other than in management, get out now. If you have a social conscience, accept that you are part of a minority that can no longer make a difference. If you are rich and comfortable, be very grateful....but, don't slip from your greasy pole as there will be no one to catch you.

Don't forget flooding, disease, pestilence, civil commotion, and throw in the odd tsunami and tropical storm.

 

[nickbrighton]

The "problem" here is actually quite simple- even though a lot of people are in denial. The "problem" the left in general have is that fewer people want their policies, leadership(that's a laugh) and general chumminess with the Unions. The "natural" party of Government in the UK is, and has been for the last 100 years or so, general right of centre, with Left leaning parties coming in as a protest vote, only to be outed next time round. The obvious exception to that being the Blair years, but then arguably his party was fairly right leaning when in power.
Now that doesn't sit well with the far left, who like to blame all the worlds ills on the right, but Britain (whatever anyone says) is a RELATIVLEY well off country) There are obvious exceptions, and some horrible examples of where it goes wrong, but the majority of people , like it or not, are far better off than their parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were. There are some undeniable areas that things need to change, but the left in general are interested in the politics of envy, and that does not sit right with a lot of the electorate.

 

[Hastings gull]

The "problem" here is actually quite simple- even though a lot of people are in denial. The "problem" the left in general have is that fewer people want their policies, leadership(that's a laugh) and general chumminess with the Unions. The "natural" party of Government in the UK is, and has been for the last 100 years or so, general right of centre, with Left leaning parties coming in as a protest vote, only to be outed next time round. The obvious exception to that being the Blair years, but then arguably his party was fairly right leaning when in power.
Now that doesn't sit well with the far left, who like to blame all the worlds ills on the right, but Britain (whatever anyone says) is a RELATIVLEY well off country) There are obvious exceptions, and some horrible examples of where it goes wrong, but the majority of people , like it or not, are far better off than their parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were. There are some undeniable areas that things need to change, but the left in general are interested in the politics of envy, and that does not sit right with a lot of the electorate.

Will you PLEASE stop posting common sense on here.

 

[Lower West Stander]

C'mon Corbyn supporters. Where are you?

You're going to win the election still right?


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[GT49er]

Don't forget flooding, disease, pestilence, civil commotion, and throw in the odd tsunami and tropical storm.

We've haven't had a decent earthquake for ages, either!

 

[vegster]

Don't forget flooding, disease, pestilence, civil commotion, and throw in the odd tsunami and tropical storm.

I'm quite lucky, I don't live in Hastings.