Flight Delay wangle

[virtual22]

Probably not. Airlines have other costs apart from fuel which probably have not dropped. Staff and Aeroplanes for starters!

You're right, those poor little airline companies only making £1.4 Billion pre tax profit in a year. In all seriousness, I don't think that staff and airplane costs will have risen that much in two years over and above what they would have cost a couple of years ago. There have been no major changes, in fact, BA have been cutting staff in recent years and arsing about with their staff terms and conditions.

 

[Paul Reids Sock]

See the page I linked to in post #2 - there are details in there somewhere.

Oops - missed that - sorry :-(

Assuming it's Heathrow or Gatwick try www.lhr-lgw.co.uk

Or flight stats.com but may need to subscribe on there.

The easiest answer is to simply ask the airline. They are not going to lie.

Finally, I believe some of the online claim companies start of by asking you to enter your flight details, only allowing you to proceed if the delay was sufficient. If it is, don't use them though!

Thanks Both - I will have a look tonight. it wasn't something I was particularly aware of at the time but really annoyed me. Most likely I will do nothing about it but I find all of these rulings rather interesting.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

You're right, those poor little airline companies only making £1.4 Billion pre tax profit in a year. In all seriousness, I don't think that staff and airplane costs will have risen that much in two years over and above what they would have cost a couple of years ago. There have been no major changes, in fact, BA have been cutting staff in recent years and arsing about with their staff terms and conditions.

Virgin make nowhere near that much and cut 500 jobs.

Cutting Crew = poorer service/lower safety onboard

 

[Bozza]

By way of coincidence, I'm looking at this now as our Orlando -> Gatwick flight was delayed today. The captain put his foot down and made up some time en route which got the delay down below 4 hours which, from what I've read, seems to cut the possible compensation from 600 Euros per person to 300 Euros per person. Still, with 5 of us flying, 300 Euros each is not to be sniffed at if it comes off.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

By way of coincidence, I'm looking at this now as our Orlando -> Gatwick flight was delayed today. The captain put his foot down and made up some time en route which got the delay down below 4 hours which, from what I've read, seems to cut the possible compensation from 600 Euros per person to 300 Euros per person. Still, with 5 of us flying, 300 Euros each is not to be sniffed at if it comes off.

Good luck with that. I had a right battle getting money for a 4 hour plus delay from Easy Jet which totally ****ed my trip to the Burnley game last season. Maybe Virgin are better at delay repay.

 

[BensGrandad]

I am fighting my sons claim from Thomas Cook and still waiting to hear from them.

 

[Collingburnian]

Keep on at Virgin. If your flight arrives more than THREE hours later than the scheduled arrival time, then the compensation comes in. This is EU law, Virgin is an EU based company and, no matter what the referendum result, we are still in the EU

 

[bhanutz]

Here we go...Watch all flight costs increase due to the Ambulance chasers...

 

[Garage_Doors]

A ruling that will no longer apply soon, unfortunately.

I thought wangle meant fiddling, as in, can I wangle a day off.

I thought exactly the same, especially with BG history of trying to get something for nothing, (i'm a poor pensioner etc)

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Here we go...Watch all flight costs increase due to the Ambulance chasers...

I think there's a big difference between whiplash claims or suing the council over a broken paving stone and something which is very clearly enshrined in consumer law.

 

[bhanutz]

I think there's a big difference between whiplash claims or suing the council over a broken paving stone and something which is very clearly enshrined in consumer law.

I am sick of this compensation culture....I saw one the other day..Have you been sick or had diarrhoea on holiday...WTF

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I am sick of this compensation culture....I saw one the other day..Have you been sick or had diarrhoea on holiday...WTF

I am as well. But as I have said flight delays are enshrined very very clearly in law; this is quite different to trying it on over a pot hole or something. In my case I bought a day return flight to the UK and the outward was over 4 hours late which rendered the trip useless. At the very least I'd expect my cash back. Why wouldn't I?

 

[The Spanish]

I think there's a big difference between whiplash claims or suing the council over a broken paving stone and something which is very clearly enshrined in consumer law.

but supercedes the warsaw/montreal conventions where your contract is simply to get from a to b, irrespective of timing, with compensation being only due on economic impacts. an populist EU layer of legislation over an existing one that has a negative impact on business activity.

 

[The Andy Naylor Fan Club]

I am sick of this compensation culture....I saw one the other day..Have you been sick or had diarrhoea on holiday...WTF

Where did you get sick? You might be able to make a claim.

 

[Bozza]

I am sick of this compensation culture....I saw one the other day..Have you been sick or had diarrhoea on holiday...WTF

Virgin handed us their own leaflet at check-in entitled "Compensation and assistance in the event of denied boarding, flight cancellation or delay" which clearly details what delayed passengers are entitled to claim for. It's not some snidey loophole.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

but supercedes the warsaw/montreal conventions where your contract is simply to get from a to b, irrespective of timing, with compensation being only due on economic impacts.

This seems a bit wishy-washy. I'm glad it was tightened up.

 

[The Spanish]

Virgin handed us their own leaflet at check-in entitled "Compensation and assistance in the event of denied boarding, flight cancellation or delay" which clearly details what delayed passengers are entitled to claim for. It's not some snidey loophole.

Thats PR - which Virgin (despite being an isolated carrier that missed the alliance boat and is now effectively run from Singapore) excel at. It's not a loophole, but it's simply good PR to be seen to be proactive about legislation that is not in their interests and penalises them for circumstances outside of their control.

 

[clippedgull]

By way of coincidence, I'm looking at this now as our Orlando -> Gatwick flight was delayed today. The captain put his foot down and made up some time en route which got the delay down below 4 hours which, from what I've read, seems to cut the possible compensation from 600 Euros per person to 300 Euros per person. Still, with 5 of us flying, 300 Euros each is not to be sniffed at if it comes off.

I see the outbound flight to Orlando was nearly 4 1/2 hours late too. Expensive round trip for Virgin!

 

[Sheebo]

By way of coincidence, I'm looking at this now as our Orlando -> Gatwick flight was delayed today. The captain put his foot down and made up some time en route which got the delay down below 4 hours which, from what I've read, seems to cut the possible compensation from 600 Euros per person to 300 Euros per person. Still, with 5 of us flying, 300 Euros each is not to be sniffed at if it comes off.

Good luck with that. I had a right battle getting money for a 4 hour plus delay from Easy Jet which totally ****ed my trip to the Burnley game last season. Maybe Virgin are better at delay repay.

You going / did you go directly to the companies (easy jet / virgin)? Had a 4 hour or so delay from easyjet - I did a 3rd party claim and a direct one just to be safe and not heard back from either. It's been 30 days now which was the time they'd told me the claim would take (Max) - how quickly was your reply from them pls HT?

 

[Bozza]

I see the outbound flight to Orlando was nearly 4 1/2 hours late too. Expensive round trip for Virgin!

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From what I've been told, the next line down in your table will probably show it arriving at LGW very late from Montego Bay (presumably more expense for Virgin) before it flew VS15.