MEP Nigel farage

[Prince Monolulu]

So no solution then, excellent, that is SO worth it.

To be happy is SO yesterday.

 

[BigGully]

So, in other words, you have nothing to offer. No solutions, no ideas. I can cope with Brexit if there is some plan or idea, the whole Leave campaign was based on criticising the
" Remain " camps talk of doom but Leave can't come up with any sort of positivity about where all the jobs and prosperity are going to come from.

No, no, no, the Leave campaign was a protest at the current experience, the here and now, it wasnt based on some projected diminishing markets or a weaker sterling or some trumped up elitist European status or superior intelligence than others, there were many factors, I suspect quite reasonably immigration was a major player, but its not driven by extreme political views, we think we will flourish and become a more progressive and yes limit immigration to a level we can subscribe to.

We are big enough strong enough please stop trawling daily news nearly hoping to see us failing, lighten up for christ sake ..............

 

[lawros left foot]

You're doing it again ....

46.5 million were eligible to vote, if you are going to continue to whine and whine and whine, at least dont get a stat wrong by 20 million FFS .......................

A POPULATION OF 65 million, all of whom will be affected.
17million is less than a third, that is a fact, and I realise only 46 million was eligible to vote, and even less than half voted out.
I also understand accept that, due to the remains inept campaign, outers lies, and some real concerns, leave won, what I don't accept is the notion more than half of the POPULATION voted out.
Not whining, just facts

 

[Prince Monolulu]

A POPULATION OF 65 million, all of whom will be affected.
17million is less than a third, that is a fact, and I realise only 46 million was eligible to vote, and even less than half voted out.
I also understand accept that, due to the remains inept campaign, outers lies, and some real concerns, leave won, what I don't accept is the notion more than half of the POPULATION voted out.
Not whining, just facts

When you say 'affected'....if this turns out in a few years to be a positive effect will you say TA?

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

A POPULATION OF 65 million, all of whom will be affected.
17million is less than a third, that is a fact, and I realise only 46 million was eligible to vote, and even less than half voted out.
I also understand accept that, due to the remains inept campaign, outers lies, and some real concerns, leave won, what I don't accept is the notion more than half of the POPULATION voted out.
Not whining, just facts

As a leave voter I agree-I would have agreed if the vote were the other way around too.

 

[BigGully]

A POPULATION OF 65 million, all of whom will be affected.
17million is less than a third, that is a fact, and I realise only 46 million was eligible to vote, and even less than half voted out.
I also understand accept that, due to the remains inept campaign, outers lies, and some real concerns, leave won, what I don't accept is the notion more than half of the POPULATION voted out.
Not whining, just facts

Again you're keeping the 20 million non eligible voters for yourself, to undermine the ratio of Leave voters, I said it the other day and you keep doing it ......

 

[vegster]

No, no, no, the Leave campaign was a protest at the current experience, the here and now, it wasnt based on some projected diminishing markets or a weaker sterling or some trumped up elitist European status or superior intelligence than others, there were many factors, I suspect quite reasonably immigration was a major player, but its not driven by extreme political views, we think we will flourish and become a more progressive and yes limit immigration to a level we can subscribe to.

We are big enough strong enough please stop trawling daily news nearly hoping to see us failing, lighten up for christ sake ..............

OK then we cut immigration and what happens ? where do the jobs come from ? .. how do we magically become enriched ? And, how do you pacify all those people who voted for change when change does not happen ?

Sorry, that was negative....... everything will be marvellous because we believe and when click the heels on our red shoes together and say " There's no place like 1950's Sheffield " everything will be better.

 

[lawros left foot]

When you say 'affected'....if this turns out in a few years to be a positive effect will you say TA?

As I said in an earlier post,(somewhere) if in five years time the country is economically better of, I will willingly stand up and admit I was wrong, in fact, I would be glad to be able to do it.

Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have to.
That's an opinion by the way, no facts,just gut feeling.

 

[Soulman]

A POPULATION OF 65 million, all of whom will be affected.
17million is less than a third, that is a fact, and I realise only 46 million was eligible to vote, and even less than half voted out.
I also understand accept that, due to the remains inept campaign, outers lies, and some real concerns, leave won, what I don't accept is the notion more than half of the POPULATION voted out.
Not whining, just facts

I was going to see if i could get my 3 year old and 2 year old nieces boys to the polling station to vote, unfortunately like about 20million of the population they can not vote.

 

[lawros left foot]

Again you're keeping the 20 million non eligible voters for yourself, to undermine the ratio of Leave voters, I said it the other day and you keep doing it ......

65 million population - 17 million out voters = 48 million
65 million population- 16 million remain Voters = 49 million

Happy now??

 

[Prince Monolulu]

As I said in an earlier post,(somewhere) if in five years time the country is economically better of, I will willingly stand up and admit I was wrong, in fact, I would be glad to be able to do it.

Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have to.
That's an opinion by the way, no facts,just gut feeling.

Fair enough, we're in for the long game but hopefully my 'gut feeling' will work. Here's hoping. We coped before EECs, Common Markets and EUs, I believe we can again.

 

[Soulman]

65 million population - 17 million out voters = 48 million
65 million population- 16 million remain Voters = 49 million

Happy now??

What are you on...........about.

 

[lawros left foot]

Fair enough, we're in for the long game but hopefully my 'gut feeling' will work. Here's hoping. We coped before EECs, Common Markets and EUs, I believe we can again.

Different world, but we'll see

 

[lawros left foot]

What are you on...........about.

I'm on about leavers erroneous claims that over half the POPULATION voted out, they didn't

 

[JCL666]

Well, I think we are being laughed at. Only time will tell if we have the last laugh. Not much fun at the moment and my livelihood is severely threatened with it. Not much more to say on it really.

I've been working in Paris this week. They're not laughing at us. Some tried to make a joke about it, most of my friends and the people I work with think it's a bit crap. Mainly because they recognise the EU isn't perfect, but think it's good for Europe.

The biggest concern they have is that this will be used by the Le Pen to drum up Nationalist support.


And they think Farage is a bit odd. By odd, I mean a ****.

 

[BigGully]

OK then we cut immigration and what happens ? where do the jobs come from ? .. how do we magically become enriched ? And, how do you pacify all those people who voted for change when change does not happen ?

Sorry, that was negative....... everything will be marvellous because we believe and when click the heels on our red shoes together and say " There's no place like 1950's Sheffield " everything will be better.

Firstly I am sure you know we are twice as densely populated as Germany and 3.5 times more densely populated as France, so just from pure numbers it needs addressing in my view, we also know the impact on jobs, wages etc. and community cohesion etc. so just on a diminishing the immigrant surge will have profound effects on people that are affected, its neither a race issue nor some kind of xenophobic little Englander mentality, its real and it will need to be addresses without compromise.

We are the 5th largest economy in the world and 2nd largest economy in the EU, we can thrive and open our vision beyond what Brussels and their politically concocted European member states determine, we can use our size to negotiate within the EU whilst unilaterally forging new trading relationships without firstly asking for some preferences from another 27 nations which I suspect drag us into less favourable agreements.

Its not about being easy, its about letting us control our destiny, future prosperity and at least have a feeling of being part of that process, we will be just fine, its full of exciting opportunities.

 

[Garage_Doors]

65 million population - 17 million out voters = 48 million
65 million population- 16 million remain Voters = 49 million

Happy now??

That statement is completely misleading.
You can't use the statistic that there were 20 million that didn't/weren't eligible to voted didn't vote to leave, nor can you claim the didn't vote stay.
Not sure why you even posing it.

 

[highflyer]

You're missing the point ,not your average joe bloggs are they
regards
DR

I'd hope not. They are MEPs. I don't think they should be average and nor would any sane person. You might say you do, but that is because you are a second account created purely for wind up purposes.

 

[highflyer]

The brexiters don't have a plan, other than trade with the world, or some such tripe. The sad thing is the worst hit will be the poorest.

The Brexit crowd said they could maintain free trade with EU and restrict movement of people. That is either a knowing lie or extreme stupidity. Seems that Boris had no appetite for facing up to that lie. As anyone with an ounce of sense would have understood, we have a choice of either keeping freedom of movement or taking a significant hit on trade and thus on our economy. When Mark Carney challenged a roomful of journalists - including those from all the major brexit supporting papers - as to whether his predictions on brexit (which they had dismissed as scaremongering) were wrong - not a single one spoke. Not one. He was right and they know it.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

The Brexit crowd said they could maintain free trade with EU and restrict movement of people. That is either a knowing lie or extreme stupidity. Seems that Boris had no appetite for facing up to that lie. As anyone with an ounce of sense would have understood, we have a choice of either keeping freedom of movement or taking a significant hit on trade and thus on our economy. When Mark Carney challenged a roomful of journalists - including those from all the major brexit supporting papers - as to whether his predictions on brexit (which they had dismissed as scaremongering) were wrong - not a single one spoke. Not one. He was right and they know it.

That's right, we either stay and have to accept free movement, or we leave. We can't cherry pick what we want. I knew this years ago just by looking at how they have dealt with other countries. This country has never wanted to be a full member of the EU anyway, otherwise we would have accepted the Euro, we have always really had one foot outside.

We just have to accept it, we can't win against the EU, which is why I voted to Leave.