[Politics] Brexit

[heathgate]

Juncker is the EU Commissioner and tasked to run the EU.

I don't think he yet has the power to tell Merkel, Hollande and Cameron that they are not allowed to negotiate future changes to the EU amongst themselves, so this is nonsense.

Sweep Sweep... that carpet ain't big enough sir.... now you are telling me that there can be separate bilateral member agreements in competition with EU edicts....

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[Hamilton]

Sweep Sweep... that carpet ain't big enough sir.... now you are telling me that there can be separate bilateral member agreements in competition with EU edicts....

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No I'm not. How do you think EU treaties get developed? By member states talking to one another and then ensuring that legislation is adopted across the Union. It's not bilateral at all.

 

[East Preston Gull]

Unfortunately, that's another mistruth isn't it. But you keep pedalling it.

He got an agreement on work benefits for migrants that is yet to be ratified. It should be ratified within the year never!

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[Hamilton]

He got an agreement on work benefits for migrants that is yet to be ratified. It should be ratified within the year never!

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If someone in the Remain camp told you that the sun will rise in the morning, you'd still tell others that you didn't believe that it would happen.

 

[5ways]

since we joined the " common market" we've had three economic recessions.............. would it matter if we left the EU
regards
DR

 

[Bold Seagull]

You've got to have a bit of a chuckle,or your brain would explode-Das and Enrest are a good safety valve,I reckon,whether you agree with them or not.

I do agree that I have a good chuckle at most of DR's posts.
regards
BS

 

[Bold Seagull]

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

so we wont have another recession if we remain
regards
DR

 

[heathgate]

No I'm not. How do you think EU treaties get developed? By member states talking to one another and then ensuring that legislation is adopted across the Union. It's not bilateral at all.

Juncker is just a figurehead now is he?.... oh how fickle the pro EU cadre are... love him one minute, dismiss him the next ...

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[5ways]

so we wont have another recession if we remain
regards
DR

If we do we'll recover faster because we will still have access to the largest and richest market in the world, and have all of our trade deals intact, all of our regulation clearly laid out and standardised across the whole EU. Still have a very flexible labour market which can seize opportunity and scale up or down depending on the economic environment.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

If we do we'll recover faster because we will still have access to the largest and richest market in the world, and have all of our trade deals intact, all of our regulation clearly laid out and standardised across the whole EU. Still have a very flexible labour market which can seize opportunity and scale up or down depending on the economic environment.

depends on how quickly you call "fast", how many country's in the EU would you call "rich"
regards
DR

 

[East Preston Gull]

If someone in the Remain camp told you that the sun will rise in the morning, you'd still tell others that you didn't believe that it would happen.

While the EU plays it's part in destroying African farmers and inviting millions of of people to play Russian roulette with their lives as they rush to cross the med to do their bit to fund the German retirement plans. We can all sleep soundly at night, knowing our fruit and veg looks the same across Europe and our plasterboard gets put in a separate skip.

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[Pretty pink fairy]

If someone in the Remain camp told you that the sun will rise in the morning, you'd still tell others that you didn't believe that it would happen.

nice swerve
regards
DR

 

[5ways]

depends on how quickly you call "fast", how many country's in the EU would you call "rich"
regards
DR

Yes I take your point but on a global scale the average European is very rich. People in Hong Kong might be richer per person but there are 500 million 'rich' people here, whereas there are 300 million 'rich' people in the US. £23000 is rich globally. This touches on the point about selling to the rest of the world. We manufacture high quality, expensive bits of kit. Cars, aerospace and engineering, those fold up bike things. Who can buy this stuff? Mainly Westerners.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Yes I take your point but on a global scale the average European is very rich. People in Hong Kong might be richer per person but there are 500 million 'rich' people here, whereas there are 300 million 'rich' people in the US. £23000 is rich globally. This touches on the point about selling to the rest of the world. We manufacture high quality, expensive bits of kit. Cars, aerospace and engineering, those fold up bike things. Who can buy this stuff? Mainly Westerners.

THIS ALL SOUND A BIT RICH coming from you, also sounds elitist and almost obscene to your average person
regards
DR

 

[East Preston Gull]

THIS ALL SOUND A BIT RICH coming from you, also sounds elitist and almost obscene to your average person
regards
DR

Boom! The elite vote remain.

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[Baldseagull]

they're a small percentage taking the piss, look at the broader picture
regards
DR

I do see a broader picture, I include Europe in my neighbourhood and the fact that we are a net contributor is due to the fact that we are one the wealthier in our society.

 

[Hamilton]

nice swerve
regards
DR

Swerving what exactly?

 

[Baldseagull]

Me,I prefer to meet my maker,if there is one of whatever brand,with a clear conscience.I'll be kind to old ladies and children,pay my taxes,and stay in Great Britain!You can go to the Virgin Isles,flights too long for me now!

As long as those are not Greek old ladies and children? If you agree that the wealthy should pay out more in taxes for the benefit of the less well off, I hope you don't see the money we pay to the E.U. as a totally negative thing.
I am staying in Britain and hopefully in the E.U.

 

[Hamilton]

While the EU plays it's part in destroying African farmers and inviting millions of of people to play Russian roulette with their lives as they rush to cross the med to do their bit to fund the German retirement plans. We can all sleep soundly at night, knowing our fruit and veg looks the same across Europe and our plasterboard gets put in a separate skip.

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African farmers!?

Oh of course, you're voting to leave because of the African farmers!

Well at last you are at least looking at the fact that problems that lie outside of the EU borders should be something of concern to the EU. If only 'camp leave' had made this point clear at the start. I get it now. So Nigel's 'Breaking Point' poster with the picture of all those refugees was aimed at getting us to see that all these poor dispossessed people forced from their homes against their will were at breaking point. Good old honest Nige. Buy that man a pint.