[Politics] Brexit

[Jim in the West]

That's one of the very obvious misrepresentations thrown around by the Remain camp. The whole purpose of a points based system is to be able to increase and decrease immigration as required. It's not fixed. You ask for more points when you want less immigration, and vice versa. Honestly it's not hard. If Remain keep getting this wrong it is deliberate.

It probably is deliberate - just one to add to the many, many other deliberate "errors" promulgated by both sides. If you're watching the debate, don't expect facts! And if there are any, they will probably be dismissed as being the voice of "experts".

 

[Hampster Gull]

stick to the issues old chap. Play the ball not the man.

Just stating some facts, which is what i have tried to do throughout the campaign

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Everyone enjoying the BBC debate? Muppets

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[Steve in Japan]

It probably is deliberate - just one to add to the many, many other deliberate "errors" promulgated by both sides. If you're watching the debate, don't expect facts! And if there are any, they will probably be dismissed as being the voice of "experts".

No that's fair comment. But having had personal experience of the Australia and NZ points systems, it's very transparent how they work. Points for English Language ability, points for education attainments, points for professional qualifications, points for work experience etc etc. It's all public information. And it is regularly reviewed and the number of points required to get a visa amended. (Sorry if telling people what they already know).

 

[Steve in Japan]

Where is Cameron or Osborne? Should put the A team out really. Khan's got potential but he's only just been elected. As Mayor of London.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Just stating some facts, which is what i have tried to do throughout the campaign

OK, back on the issues though I still don't understand the issue of Turkey. If their membership of the EU isn't going to happen then why is the UK helping to fund their accession ? Either rule them out and stop spending the money or admit that their joining is a possibility. This is the same Turkey by the way that violently broke up a Gay rights march last week. As long as this money is being spent it cannot be claimed that this is a scare story.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Anyone watching this tripe and making a decision based on it needs their head testing.

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[Neville's Breakfast]

Anyone watching this tripe and making a decision based on it needs their head testing.

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made up my mind quite a while ago. Enjoying the debate anyway and screening out the wild claims.

 

[Steve in Japan]

OK, back on the issues though I still don't understand the issue of Turkey. If their membership of the EU isn't going to happen then why is the UK helping to fund their accession ? Either rule them out and stop spending the money or admit that their joining is a possibility. This is the same Turkey by the way that violently broke up a Gay rights march last week. As long as this money is being spent it cannot be claimed that this is a scare story.

This is a decision for generations. Not for the next 5 years. So Turkey's candidacy for EU membership is very much in scope for discussion. IMHO.

 

[East Preston Gull]

Why are we spending money smoothing the path for Turkey, when remain say it is not going to happen until the year 3000. I don't understand this.

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[Wrong-Direction]

I'm so glad I haven't put my name to any of this, I'm quite looking forward to seeing the country plummet (which it will either way) and then watching everyone argue again [emoji23] hahaha feel so fortunate to be in a minority of people who know for a FACT the working class/ poor will never see any more money in their pockets.

 

[Jim in the West]

Anyone watching this tripe and making a decision based on it needs their head testing.

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I heard (on Radio 4 this evening) that somewhere between 20% to 25% either haven't decided, or might change their mind....if that's true there's still all to play for.

 

[East Preston Gull]

I'm so glad I haven't put my name to any of this, I'm quite looking forward to seeing the country plummet (which it will either way) and then watching everyone argue again [emoji23] hahaha feel so fortunate to be in a minority of people who know for a FACT the working class/ poor will never see any more money in their pockets.

That's wonderful. For someone who does not care, you have an awful lot to say. If you are not going to vote either way or do not care, then maybe this is not the thread for you...just saying!

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[Wrong-Direction]

That's wonderful. For someone who does not care, you have an awful lot to say. If you are not going to vote either way or do not care, then maybe this is not the thread for you...just saying!

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Its a free country!
Or is it...?
.....

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[portslade seagull]

Just stating some facts, which is what i have tried to do throughout the campaign

Most aren't facts though are they just heresy

 

[Hampster Gull]

OK, back on the issues though I still don't understand the issue of Turkey. If their membership of the EU isn't going to happen then why is the UK helping to fund their accession ? Either rule them out and stop spending the money or admit that their joining is a possibility. This is the same Turkey by the way that violently broke up a Gay rights march last week. As long as this money is being spent it cannot be claimed that this is a scare story.

Shame, i used to enjoy Alfredzzzz and his insight. On Turkey, its called politics. Keeping states onside. Turkey is our ally in a strategic area. Doesnt mean they will join. All countries have to agree to their membership so its not just us, its Greece also.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Why are we spending money smoothing the path for Turkey, when remain say it is not going to happen until the year 3000. I don't understand this.

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Its called politics

 

[portslade seagull]

I'm so glad I haven't put my name to any of this, I'm quite looking forward to seeing the country plummet (which it will either way) and then watching everyone argue again [emoji23] hahaha feel so fortunate to be in a minority of people who know for a FACT the working class/ poor will never see any more money in their pockets.

I think the whole thing has been staged and all will be happy clappy afterwards

 

[portslade seagull]

Its called politics

But you keep insisting they are not joining the EU.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Most aren't facts though are they just heresy

just facts, just facts, and of course a few opinions thrown in