He's 0-3 against Federer and 2-5 against Djokovic in grand slam FINALS. But there is no shame in losing to 2 of the worlds greatest players of all time and it certainly doesn't make him a bottler. What is your definition of a bottler? Because it seems to be someone who loses the big games, regardless of how and who he is playing.
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[Football] UEFA has threatened to disqualify England and Russia from Euro 2016
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He's 0-3 against Federer and 2-5 against Djokovic in grand slam FINALS. But there is no shame in losing to 2 of the worlds greatest players of all time and it certainly doesn't make him a bottler. What is your definition of a bottler? Because it seems to be someone who loses the big games, regardless of how and who he is playing.
Machiavelli
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I gather Murray v Djokovic is being discussed because you think that Murray is a bottler.
Now I've watched a lot of sport in my life, and I confidently say that Murray is one of the most competitive performers I've witnessed. He's the very epitome of a fighter ...
... which is another way of saying that I think that your characterisation of Murray as a bottler is barking.
A person who is called Andy Murray.
Stop backing up a Jock who was wearing a Russian shirt and drinking vodka Saturday night.
alfredmizen
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- Mar 11, 2015
- 6,342
Now, now lets not start rolling out tired national stereotypes shall weNo, he didn't bottle it, he lost. To the world's #1. You really clueless.
And no need for me to "do one" as I'm sure you'll probably just put your poncy scooter into reverse soon enough if I just stand my ground.
Gazwag
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oh dear oh dear oh dear, I think you will find in this universe he was relaxing after training and getting prepared for Queens this week.
And no need for me to "do one" as I'm sure you'll probably just put your poncy scooter into reverse soon enough if I just stand my ground.
Racist.
Pogue Mahone
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- Apr 30, 2011
- 10,752
Not that post specifically, but you do get angry very easily, and abusive too. The tennis thread is one of many examples of this.
You're saying he's gay?
You do get angry very easily, and abusive too. The tennis thread is one of many examples of this.
Pogue Mahone
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- Apr 30, 2011
- 10,752
I can't get my head around the French tactics.
nicko31
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Think have no idea. On return my friends was randomly questioned by UK police at St. Pancras about what was going on over there (not related to the incident). He asked them why the French didn't co-operate closer with UK police, apparently they refused.
Its quite simple, astonishingly the have no inclination to protect any English fans, perhaps from now on and away from Marseilles their approach might improve but I am not confident.
My Son is due to arrive in Lille today, my concern is that he travels to our nearest European neighbours and I cannot be sure if they even have any regards to his or other law abiding English fans safety, its quite something when you think about.
Clive Walker
Stand Or Fall
Honestly the noise coming from the media relating to England supporters is probably because we only hear reports concerning the home nations. I'm assuming that German, Ukraine and Russian news agencies are giving their following the air time they deserve.
Playing the 'blame poor England' card doesn't wash. It was the England 'fans' who were up to their usual antics three days earlier to the sad scenes within the ground. All over social media were scenes of English louts drinking, singing abusive and derogatory songs, throwing bottles and chairs and acting in an embarrassing way. To which I saw comments showing pride and support.
Only when another group turn up do people start blaming other fans. It's childlike.
I think it's pointless pointing blame as all involved were acting like complete tools. We've seen it before and we will probably see it again.
It's embarrassing to be linked to such people. They look and sound like uneducated, unfit, unhealthy, badly dressed degenerates. They seem to have no idea about national pride. They fail to show anyone any respect and portray themselves as tacky looking fools who think they come from a better place than anyone else.
The vast majority look like the same bunch of turds that rant and rave about foreigners that come to our country and take our jobs. They seem happy to repay this by creating extra work for the people of countries they visit.
I don't ambit to having much national pride but if I had any it would be desolved by now. I would welcome a ban on England as I think this would be the only real deterrent. Tackling it with riot police only fuels there ambitions.
My ultimate concern would be for a extremist to decide to start opening fire with a gun at a metro station 2 miles away while the police are busy dealing with Phil and grant look a likes. Taking resources away for needles thuggery could cause fatality figures to increase, if an attack (as warned) were to take place.
If I could explain that to some of them I would but I don't think they would understand it. As they do appear a bit thick.
I wonder if they would take a responsibility for that?
Playing the 'blame poor England' card doesn't wash. It was the England 'fans' who were up to their usual antics three days earlier to the sad scenes within the ground. All over social media were scenes of English louts drinking, singing abusive and derogatory songs, throwing bottles and chairs and acting in an embarrassing way. To which I saw comments showing pride and support.
Only when another group turn up do people start blaming other fans. It's childlike.
I think it's pointless pointing blame as all involved were acting like complete tools. We've seen it before and we will probably see it again.
It's embarrassing to be linked to such people. They look and sound like uneducated, unfit, unhealthy, badly dressed degenerates. They seem to have no idea about national pride. They fail to show anyone any respect and portray themselves as tacky looking fools who think they come from a better place than anyone else.
The vast majority look like the same bunch of turds that rant and rave about foreigners that come to our country and take our jobs. They seem happy to repay this by creating extra work for the people of countries they visit.
I don't ambit to having much national pride but if I had any it would be desolved by now. I would welcome a ban on England as I think this would be the only real deterrent. Tackling it with riot police only fuels there ambitions.
My ultimate concern would be for a extremist to decide to start opening fire with a gun at a metro station 2 miles away while the police are busy dealing with Phil and grant look a likes. Taking resources away for needles thuggery could cause fatality figures to increase, if an attack (as warned) were to take place.
If I could explain that to some of them I would but I don't think they would understand it. As they do appear a bit thick.
I wonder if they would take a responsibility for that?
chimneys
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- Jun 11, 2007
- 3,590
I don't think I'm going to settle your nerves BigGully!
I was in Lens in 98, again following the violence in Marseille. French CRS reaction was to go completely OTT with absolutely no provocation. And we were playing Columbia then, not our old foes the Welsh with the Russians 30 mins on a train away! Am predicting a locked down war zone in Lens and Lille with French robocops itching to tear gas/baton charge innocents this week.
The Russian press isn't, if anything they are reporting 250 brave Russian stood up to 1000s of English hooligans in the stadium
Clive Walker
Stand Or Fall
Well....they should be condemning them just like we should be condemning ours