[Politics] Brexit

[Hampster Gull]

You mean like you are 100% of the time

Just presenting the facts

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Sometimes JC you are beating your head against the wall. The 'remainers' don't see the logical arguments, just the belief in an ideal utopia. Deluded, naïve, immature or plain stupid. It will take another 100yrs for a truly politically united group of disparate cultures/countries to allow themselves to become truly united.

One can but try. Even if the referendum doesn't go the way we would hope future events will prove the Brexiteers right. Unfortunately the situation will be far worse by then.There is no chance of the EU realising it's goal of a harmonious Federal Superstate even in 100 years time it will all go tits up in the next decade IMO.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

In your world only in the uk

True

 

[Soulman]

I see the vast majority working hard, trying to better themselves and contribute to the community

In reply to you and 5 ways. I have not stated that the vast majority do not contribute here, merely stated after you previous comments implying "Our eu citizens welcome us to work in their country which is great, as well as retire their"..... was that our citizens retire there because they have the funds to contribute, funds that had EU citizens had i believe they eould not choose the UK to retire in...... most are younger who (a majority) will work and probably set themselves up nicely in either their own country or another a bit more appealing.

 

[Soulman]

Just presenting the facts

"facts"....... Hmmmm.

 

[The Rivet]

In your world only in the uk

That is outrageous. People work 45-55+yrs and pay into the country, they PAY for their pension. It is NOT a benefit.
It's a contract between state and citizens. You pay, you deserve, even if you are 105!

 

[Hampster Gull]

That is outrageous. People work 45-55+yrs and pay into the country, they PAY for their pension. It is NOT a benefit.
It's a contract between state and citizens. You pay, you deserve, even if you are 105!

You misunderstand. Ie could only draw their pension in the uk. No eu, no pensioners drawing pensions in spain.

 

[pastafarian]

EU migrants do as well contribute to the economy. They also pay taxes, rather than live off a pension so there may be more flowing in to the system.

the 100`s of thousands of illegal immigrants in the country dont pay much tax

 

[Soulman]

That is outrageous. People work 45-55+yrs and pay into the country, they PAY for their pension. It is NOT a benefit.
It's a contract between state and citizens. You pay, you deserve, even if you are 105!

Exactly. You must not say that though, being a bit patriotic and looking after these people is not the In thing to do.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Our eu citizens welcome us to work in their country which is great, as well as retire their etc. Happy days

All 3 million of them, unfortunately job opportunities in the Eurozone aren't that prevalent. Didn't realise retiring to Europe would be prohibited post Brexit.

 

[5ways]

Pensioners pay tax and have earnt the right to a pension.....

We export pensioners and import working age people - this is a good thing Across the Western world, and beyond, thinking about it (Japan, and even China) populations are getting older. We need young people to pay into the system to support them. I know that the UK and US are among the few countries in the developed world bucking this trend. In the UK this is thanks to inward migration. This is very healthy for the economy, no where can attract talent like the UK can. The way I see it if you close the door to EU migrants you close the door to growth which will consequently reduce services or push up taxes. The current set-up is very advantageous.

 

[5ways]

the 100`s of thousands of illegal immigrants in the country dont pay much tax

And should be dealt with accordingly, of course.

 

[The Rivet]

We export pensioners and import working age people - this is a good thing Across the Western world, and beyond, thinking about it (Japan, and even China) populations are getting older. We need young people to pay into the system to support them. I know that the UK and US are among the few countries in the developed world bucking this trend. In the UK this is thanks to inward migration. This is very healthy for the economy, no where can attract talent like the UK can. The way I see it if you close the door to EU migrants you close the door to growth which will consequently reduce services or push up taxes. The current set-up is very advantageous.

No one wants to close the 'door' just have the keys and the control.

 

[The Rivet]

And should be dealt with accordingly, of course.

Wow good expression of condescension!

 

[pastafarian]

The way I see it if you close the door to EU migrants you close the door to growth .

NO ONE has said close the door to EU migrants,yet you lot spout this rubbish every now and then.
i am not surprised you cant comprehend Brexit arguments.
You are unable to understand the concept of a controlled immigration policy when you simply believe it means shutting up shop.

 

[5ways]

Wow good expression of condescension!

Fetch me lemon water so I may wash my hands of this business at once.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

It's Friday I'm pissed who's round is it?

 

[Maldini]

I'm still waiting for someone on the side of Remain to tell me what their ceiling is.How many migrants are they prepared to accept before even they say enough is enough and yes you do have a ceiling level.When you've answered that perhaps you will answer the other unanswered questions being how will we cope with housing,nhs,doctors,schools?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

I'm still waiting for someone on the side of Remain to tell me what their ceiling is.How many migrants are they prepared to accept before even they say enough is enough and yes you do have a ceiling level.When you've answered that perhaps you will answer the other unanswered questions being how will we cope with housing,nhs,doctors,schools?

Ask Gus

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Fetch me lemon water so I may wash my hands of this business at once.

EU lemons or would you accept from anywhere in the world....