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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
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GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast






Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,507
Brighton
If you don't know one vote each in the council of ministers doesn't equate to equal influence or that we have bug*er all control of EU immigration or that reforming the EU in a direction away from ever closer union is unachievable then you are quite possibly the most uninformed person contributing to this thread which is quite an achievement.

As a lover of facts please show me one EU treaty that hasn't reinforced ever closer union... Or how we can limit EU immigration ..Or how we can or have reform/ed the EU in a direction more to our liking?

If you don't know that one vote each in a council of ministers doesn't equate to Germany having undue influence then I can't help you.

EU treaties are designed to create harmony in the interests of all members. Immigration has been covered a thousand times. It is necessary and works both ways.


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portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,641
portslade
If you don't know that one vote each in a council of ministers doesn't equate to Germany having undue influence then I can't help you.

EU treaties are designed to create harmony in the interests of all members. Immigration has been covered a thousand times. It is necessary and works both ways.


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GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
Focus on the net, not the gross. Makes a huge difference. A bit like your wages. Seems much more before tax, ie gross, than after, ie net

does the government tax it's self
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,329
gideon (george Osbourne) is now saying that house prices will fall by as much as 15% if we leave the EU

jumping the shark with that. its pretty desperate claim and if it were true, why is that a bad thing? aside from possibly losing some votes for remaining, this shows background to other misguided economic policy.
 






JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
If you don't know that one vote each in a council of ministers doesn't equate to Germany having undue influence then I can't help you.

EU treaties are designed to create harmony in the interests of all members. Immigration has been covered a thousand times. It is necessary and works both ways.


Sent from my iPhone in a non-Calde world :-(

Show me one EU treaty that hasn't reinforced ever closer union ... Failed to answer the question, Answer there isn't one.

Or how we can limit EU immigration .. Failed to answer the question, Answer we can't.

Or how we can or have reform/ed the EU in a direction more to our liking... Failed to answer the question Answer it hasn't happened so why would this change.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
And with an ever depreciating £ post Brexit your house will become more and more worthless over time, whilst imprts will ge tmore and more expensive. No american style fridge freezer

in fairness when your house becomes worthless following a Brexit you can use the money you saved on the american style fridge freezer which is no longer sold here to simply buy an extra house or two
 




The Rivet

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2011
4,512
I am frustrated. The focus is on what companies/individuals will gain, short term maybe by staying in or voting out.
Maybe I am old fashioned, maybe too old to count but, I believe in democracy.
Doe's the EU deliver democracy? Not in my view.
My idea of democracy is self determination, elected sovereign control. Voted for by the populace of THIS country.
We don't like it, we kick 'em out'
Kiss all that goodbye with a 'remain' vote.
 




GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
Many wont have a job to afford even a house or two though

perhaps migrant workers will return home to help ease the burden......HEY EUROPE......BRITAIN CLOSED NO WORK HERE
 




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