[Politics] Brexit

[Herr Tubthumper]

That's not what he said.

If the Remain campaign figures are true then I'll be worse off if we leave - I'm prepared to accept that.

Maybe you, Boris, Gove and especially the free-loading IDS can afford it. But hundreds of thousands are already living on the breadline and I'm not sure they can afford financially, or otherwise, the unpredictability of the next few years. It just reeks of selfishness to me.

 

[Bladders]

Maybe you, Boris, Gove and especially the free-loading IDS can afford it. But hundreds of thousands are already living on the breadline and I'm not sure they can afford financially, or otherwise, the unpredictability of the next few years. It just reeks of selfishness to me.

So we should stay in the EU to become richer and better off even though most of Southern Europe is struggling and poorer.

It just Reeks of selfishness to me

We'll leave and they can have our share . Much fairer.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

So we should stay in the EU to become richer and better off even though most of Southern Europe is struggling and poorer.

It just Reeks of selfishness to me

We'll leave and they can have our share . Much fairer.

Obviously not. We should work together to help each other out.

 

[Spicy]

Obviously not. We should work together to help each other out.

Haven't we all been pretending to do that for years and it still isn't working. I am still OUT.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Obviously not. We should work together to help each other out.

Help defined as imposing austerity on a country contributing to 20% + unemployment, 50% + Youth unemployment and 6000 + suicides .. one big happy caring compassionate EU family.

 

[Bladders]

Obviously not. We should work together to help each other out.

Yeah, thats working isn't it.

And we can all sing Kumbaya around the camp fire.

A Greek one

 

[portslade seagull]

If we vote out we will all stop breathing the next day

 

[portslade seagull]

Ex Intelligence chiefs say our security is less safe if we leave. There you go, the experts have spoken. Over to the non experts

Blah blah blah and the world will stop spinning as well

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Blah blah blah and the world will stop spinning as well

You're making a good argument for relying on experts...

 

[5ways]

Maybe you, Boris, Gove and especially the free-loading IDS can afford it. But hundreds of thousands are already living on the breadline and I'm not sure they can afford financially, or otherwise, the unpredictability of the next few years. It just reeks of selfishness to me.

Or Aaron Banks, who bank-rolls leave, who said it was worth taking a financial hit for Brexit. It's alright for him, he's a millionaire. For everyone else that £4,300 quid they will lose on average and the decline in their house price, and rising food prices will hurt. A lot.

 

[Soulman]

Or Aaron Banks, who bank-rolls leave, who said it was worth taking a financial hit for Brexit. It's alright for him, he's a millionaire. For everyone else that £4,300 quid they will lose on average and the decline in their house price, and rising food prices will hurt. A lot.

 

[5ways]

What a patronising post !!!!

Let's take one small subject - defence / security. The hot topic of the moment. So as an inner, would you care to explain how we the UK would be less secure if we leave ? It seems to be an issue with the remain camp so one would expect them to explain why yet NOBODY has.

Did you catch this letter?

The former heads of MI5 and MI6 have warned that leaving the EU could undermine “our ability to protect ourselves” from terrorists.

Baron Evans of Weardale, the former director-general of MI5, and Sir John Sawers, the former head of MI6, say Brexit could also lead to “instability on the Continent”, compounding the current “economic difficulties, the migration crisis and a resurgent Russia”.

In an article for The Sunday Times, the former spy chiefs warn that a vote to leave could damage intelligence sharing because the EU would restrict surveillance powers if the UK were not in the union.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spy-chiefs-say-quitting-eu-is-security-risk-fgzgpgkgk

I trust their judgement. This also chimes with what the Head of Europol said.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Or Aaron Banks, who bank-rolls leave, who said it was worth taking a financial hit for Brexit. It's alright for him, he's a millionaire. For everyone else that £4,300 quid they will lose on average and the decline in their house price, and rising food prices will hurt. A lot.

I am still banking on the net immigration to dramatically reduce thus saving us all a few pounds.....i'll vote and take my chances....my holidays are not a necessity so that's a grand saved for me..if i choose to stay at home

 

[Soulman]

Did you catch this letter?

The former heads of MI5 and MI6 have warned that leaving the EU could undermine “our ability to protect ourselves” from terrorists.

Baron Evans of Weardale, the former director-general of MI5, and Sir John Sawers, the former head of MI6, say Brexit could also lead to “instability on the Continent”, compounding the current “economic difficulties, the migration crisis and a resurgent Russia”.

In an article for The Sunday Times, the former spy chiefs warn that a vote to leave could damage intelligence sharing because the EU would restrict surveillance powers if the UK were not in the union.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spy-chiefs-say-quitting-eu-is-security-risk-fgzgpgkgk

I trust their judgement. This also chimes with what the Head of Europol said.

Quotes : "say Brexit COULD also lead to “instability on the Continent”, compounding the current “economic difficulties, the migration crisis and a resurgent Russia”.
"have warned that leaving the EU COULD undermine “our ability to protect ourselves” from terrorists"
" former spy chiefs warn that a vote to leave COULD damage intelligence sharing because the EU would restrict surveillance powers if the UK were not in the union.

 

[5ways]

I am still banking on the net immigration to dramatically reduce thus saving us all a few pounds.....i'll vote and take my chances....my holidays are not a necessity so that's a grand saved for me..if i choose to stay at home

Well it's worth pointint out again that net immigration is not going to be reduced dramatically in any scenario, and that EU migrants pay more into the system than they take out. They are a net benefit to the Treasury. They subsidise your services.

 

[portslade seagull]

You're making a good argument for relying on experts...

What the so called experts who will come out with anything but the truth to further the yes vote. Name 1 thing that is 100% true in anything they have spouted, it is all made up nonsense which they hope some of the populas will take in , trouble is most have been seen for what they are so now they are crowing about WW3 you just couldn't make it up. Here is the next one for you if we vote out we will be invaded by Aliens

 

[5ways]

Quotes : "say Brexit COULD also lead to “instability on the Continent”, compounding the current “economic difficulties, the migration crisis and a resurgent Russia”.
"have warned that leaving the EU COULD undermine “our ability to protect ourselves” from terrorists"
" former spy chiefs warn that a vote to leave COULD damage intelligence sharing because the EU would restrict surveillance powers if the UK were not in the union.

Yes I think a key part of their job was to look at the available evidence and make decisions which may have longer-term ramifications.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Well it's worth pointint out again that net immigration is not going to be reduced dramatically in any scenario, and that EU migrants pay more into the system than they take out. They are a net benefit to the Treasury. They subsidise your services.

Well if it continues at the current rates we will all be worse off with 80million people in the country by 2030.....

 

[Soulman]

Yes I think a key part of their job was to look at the available evidence and make decisions which may have longer-term ramifications.

Who knows they COULD be right...... then again we COULD be better off out of this un elected run EU.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

yes i think a key part of their job was to look at the available evidence and make decisions which may have longer-term ramifications.

COULD, MIGHT = DON'T KNOW
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DR