A point ahead or a game in hand ?

[darkwolf666]

Are you all bloody shitfaced?

Points in the ****ing bag my arse. I'd rather have 3 points in the bag than a game in hand, sure, but 1? 1 measly ****ing point! Using your infant school logic you'd rather have 2 points in the bag than 5 games in hand.

I can guarantee you this - in the remaining fixtures we'll need more than 1 point per game average if we're to finish in the top two. 79 points will not see us in the top two. So of course 1 shitty little point isn't worth a game in hand.

I despair at the intelligence North Stand Chat has to offer sometimes, it's depressing.

Don't think you read the original question, as the poll quite clearly says a point ahead or ONE game in hand! However, I agree with you though that in our case that one point is meaningless as our goal difference means that anything but a defeat in that game in hand would see 'Boro go above us.

Looking at the timing of your rather expletive laden posting, are you sure you weren't the one who was shitfaced?

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I'd take a 2 point lead but a game in hand for a top end side has to be better than one point - particularly as a draw takes them above us on goal difference.

This

 

[Blue3]

Points every time

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Are you all bloody shitfaced?

Points in the ****ing bag my arse. I'd rather have 3 points in the bag than a game in hand, sure, but 1? 1 measly ****ing point! Using your infant school logic you'd rather have 2 points in the bag than 5 games in hand.

I can guarantee you this - in the remaining fixtures we'll need more than 1 point per game average if we're to finish in the top two. 79 points will not see us in the top two. So of course 1 shitty little point isn't worth a game in hand.

I despair at the intelligence North Stand Chat has to offer sometimes, it's depressing.

Not your most eloquent of answers but yes, this.

Had the poll correctly addressed the situation, the responses may have been different.

Would you prefer a 1 point lead with an inferior goal difference, or a home game, against Reading, in hand. Where you just need a measly draw.

Seriously? Points on the board? No thanks I'd take Boro's position every time.

That doesn' t mean I don't think we can do it.
I'm just fully aware how tough it's going to be.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I guess a lot would depend on who the game in hand was against. If it were against Charlton or Bolton for example, then yes, I guess I'd prefer the game in hand.

You mean, like Boro's game in hand they played against Charlton? The result was 2-0 to Charlton.

 

[severnside gull]

because of relative goal difference Boro only have to draw their game in hand to go above us. We would have to win a game in hand to overtake them from a point back.


Does that help?
No, I didn't think so either

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Are you all bloody shitfaced?

Points in the ****ing bag my arse. I'd rather have 3 points in the bag than a game in hand, sure, but 1? 1 measly ****ing point! Using your infant school logic you'd rather have 2 points in the bag than 5 games in hand.

I can guarantee you this - in the remaining fixtures we'll need more than 1 point per game average if we're to finish in the top two. 79 points will not see us in the top two. So of course 1 shitty little point isn't worth a game in hand.

I despair at the intelligence North Stand Chat has to offer sometimes, it's depressing.

I thought the OP was just talking about the situation of the two teams - not a hypothetical situation

Edit: misread your post.

 

[Perkino]

I'd rather have the game in hand. If it's down to us and our own results then we just have to worry about us.

However one game at a time and make sure we remain in control of the situation.

I long for 3 points against Burnley but fear it will be a bore draw

 

[darkwolf666]

I'd rather have the game in hand. If it's down to us and our own results then we just have to worry about us.

However one game at a time and make sure we remain in control of the situation.

I long for 3 points against Burnley but fear it will be a bore draw

Strange, because I think it's more likely to be a riot - we have had two off at home before against Burnley, and if we don't keep our often simmering tensions under control I can see a similar outcome.

 

[el punal]

Can we please just agree where points are kept/put?!?!

You'll have to have a word with Mr. Pointy Head about that.

 

[happygull]

I read the thread and yes its only one point and yes we have an inferior goal difference but at this time of the season I would honestly prefer the point in the bag. Its been a long arduous season and come the month of April we have six games, Middlesbrough have eight which includes six games in nineteen days, I don't care who you are or how deep your squad is, they will struggle during the end of that period and that game in had could well come to nothing.

 

[Triggaaar]

Don't think you read the original question, as the poll quite clearly says a point ahead or ONE game in hand!

Yeah I read that just fine. We need to average more than 1 point a game to finish top two, so games in hand are worth more than 1 point on average, so yes, I'd rather a game in hand than 1 point.

Looking at the timing of your rather expletive laden posting, are you sure you weren't the one who was shitfaced?

I was perfectly sober, just furious!

Not your most eloquent of answers but yes, this.

Yes, it's difficult to be eloquent when you're furious!

I read the thread and yes its only one point and yes we have an inferior goal difference but at this time of the season I would honestly prefer the point in the bag. Its been a long arduous season and come the month of April we have six games, Middlesbrough have eight

Like when we had 8 games in March 2011, and we won every single one of them.

 

[MJsGhost]

We are averaging 1.9 points per game this season. There's no reason to think that would not continue, so it's the game in hand for me every time.
1 point per game will not be enough for 1st or 2nd, so I guess there are a lot of people voting who like the playoffs

 

[Thunder Bolt]

We are averaging 1.9 points per game this season. There's no reason to think that would not continue, so it's the game in hand for me every time.
1 point per game will not be enough for 1st or 2nd, so I guess there are a lot of people voting who like the playoffs

It's not about us solely, but our position in comparison to Middlesbrough.

 

[Hotchilidog]

In this division I'll take the points. All four teams at the top have proved how hard they are to come by in this division. We lost to Rotherham (when they were still sh*t), Boro lost to a woeful Charlton, Burnley through away a lead to a Wolves team with nothing to play for and Hull couldn't beat MK Dons at home. There are no guaranteed wins in this division and right now I'd take the point lead thank you very much.

 

[dev321]

points definitely.

 

[Triggaaar]

We are averaging 1.9 points per game this season. There's no reason to think that would not continue, so it's the game in hand for me every time.
1 point per game will not be enough for 1st or 2nd, so I guess there are a lot of people voting who like the playoffs

Why are people finding this so hard to grasp?

It's not about us solely, but our position in comparison to Middlesbrough.

You also need to take our position relative to Burnley and Hull into account, as the four of us are fighting for the two places. So we've got 8 games left to try and get something like 16 points. Would you rather that, or 9 games left to get something like 17 points. The latter is the right answer.

In this division I'll take the points.

Well you can't, because points aren't on offer. 1 point is all you've been offered.

All four teams at the top have proved how hard they are to come by in this division. We lost to Rotherham (when they were still sh*t), Boro lost to a woeful Charlton, Burnley through away a lead to a Wolves team with nothing to play for and Hull couldn't beat MK Dons at home.

What has been proved is that the four teams can earn an average of 1.88 points per game, so taking 1 point from 1 game is stupid. That's why we like it when our rivals play each other, and we hope they get a draw, as it means they only get 1 point each. And yet some here think a point is good

There are no guaranteed wins in this division and right now I'd take the point lead thank you very much.

There are no guaranteed wins in any division, and taking a point lead would be the wrong thing to do.

 

[Hotchilidog]

Well you can't, because points aren't on offer. 1 point is all you've been offered.

We haven't been offered the point, we already HAVE it, Boro do not.

 

[MJsGhost]

To put it another way...

Would you rather have a) 8 games to get 14 points (hypothetically) required for promotion, or b) 7 games to get 13?

Option a) for me please!!

 

[Triggaaar]

We haven't been offered the point, we already HAVE it, Boro do not.

Brighton have the point, but it's a hypothetical question as to whether we would want the point or the game in hand, not whether we'd like the points.

People are blindly saying they'd like the points in the bag without really thinking about how many we get. It's like when Beefy is analysing a run chase he says he'd rather the runs on the board, but that is of course dependent on how many runs it is - he wouldn't say it if it was a 50 over game and we were 60 all out. And in our situation, points in the bag would be nice, but 1 isn't enough.

Now if you offered us 87 points, all games played, I'd go for that - points in the bag please. But if you're offering 1 point per game, so you offer 77 points, all games played, then no thanks.